Not at all, you show me anywhere I've as much as suggested that. He obviously decided to go in the end, and of course that's fine and I genuinely wish him all the best. I'm just saying that it wasn't as Dai suggested that Allen wanted to go to Liverpool no matter what, and was going there come what may. I know for a fact that this wasn't the case and just wanted to say so. Am I not allowed to question what I believe to be absolute bollocks for fear of being questioned by you for not understanding that it happens in the game or being 'bitter' as seems to be one of your more favoured allegations?
No he was bound and drugged and made to join liverpool so that some can blame rodgers for it ...your right breezy, the club could not do nothing because Brendan did nothing wrong, And any sort of agreement was never going to stop allen going to liverpool period or any other player if Brendan came in for them, But as he has kept his word none of our players can demand a move, Kenny sowed the seed with allen not brendan so apart from him the others who brendan is interested in will have to wait until the agreement is over or if another club puts a bid in for them in january's window
You still haven't given any proof that Kenny wanted Allen , to put it bluntly Superswan you are speaking out of your arse as far I can see. SA9 comes across as very credible when I look at his posts, for example knowing the name of the baby on the same day as he was born, how would he know that if his girlfriend hadn't spoken to Allen's missus ? Also the fact that he knows the drama will likely include them house hunting at the last minute. Sorry that sounds to me that he knows what is happening concerning this. You on the other Superswan appears to take every little thing you see as speculation in the gutter press as gospel, plus unfounded rumours by the bog cleaners at the liberty. I know who I'm going to believe, and it's not you mate.
show me proof he didn't??? I know he did and so do others who actually keeps up to date with whats going on...I suggest that if you are that interested that you do the same...Im not your gofa...
I dont care what anyone thinks it up to them, I am only interested what i know to be correct and thats all that matters to me.....you believe what you want as only you will have the true facts you believe in...im not interested it means nothing to me...Joe is at liverpool and i know why he is there....
Sorry valley im not playing your childish immature games of insults because you dont know the facts why Brendan never had anything to do with allens determination to join Liverpool.....end of conversation for me and you can do as you please on this thread...
I see where you got this from now Superswan , the daily fail ran the story about 3rd of July saying that daglish was an admirer of joe allen. Of course that has led you to say that joe wanted to go there. So basically speculation that is unfounded you read the fail , need I say any more ?
I see Dai has completed a full circle in his goldfish bowl. ooh a castle how is it possible to prove that Kenny wasn't interested in Allen?? That aside, the issue is you saying that Allen was hell bent on going to Liverpool no matter what. All I've ever claimed was that he was indecisive up until the last week when he did actually sign, and I stand by that no matter what your bullsh!t sources tell you. I know he finally chose to go Liverpool, but to say that he always wanted to go there is absolute bollocks on so many fronts
Dai I'd love to see this photo of you from the awards evening and this close player friend of yours? (btw I've had photos with the players doesn't mean I'm best friends with them) Cock
Copper, as much as I agree with the sentiments of your post, name calling is just dragging it down to Dai's level. It's not needed
SA9, the comment wasn't aimed at you, but as a general remark that many fans blame Rodgers. I'm just saying that Rodgers couldn't have signed him if he didn't want to leave. Rodgers may have given him the opportunity, but Allen's the one that left to take that opportunity. You could equally blame Swansea (and all other clubs) for forcing players out before the end of their contracts. This is how football works. Rodgers just did what every manager and club does. Some will say he went back on his word, but that is exactly what all clubs do when they no longer want players. They sign for 3 years and then after a year or two the club goes back on their word and gets rid of them. Completely normal behavior in football. So if you think Rodgers is guilty, then so is every other manager, including Laudrup (who wanted players under contract to come here). You can debate the semantics, but it's all the same in the end.
As far as I'm aware, Laudrup had no agreement with his former clubs on coming back for their players, so that argument is dead in the water
please log in to view this image I think this thread has gone on long enough now and failed miserably, just bickering again, "I know what you don`t know", "no you know nothing I know everything", "I know all the players", "big deal I am the players". It`s supposed to be about Vorm but yet again it`s turned into something else. And by the way, " my dad`s bigger than your dad", "no he`s not, `cause my mum`s better than your`s". please log in to view this image Get on the please log in to view this image and support OUR team and players, not the ones that have gone before and are now no longer part of the ride. Enjoy the ride please log in to view this image and stop please log in to view this image
I agree to an extent Swanee, I'm more interested in the Swans but most of us can't understand Dai's stupidity here. On Laudrup though, isn't that the point? In the absence of an agreement it's fair game. I still have yet to see Dai tell us how he believes the breach amounts to doing "nothing wrong". 1: Liverpool initially bid £12.5M. That was a breach because (a) Allen wasn't for sale, and (b) no other team had expressed a real interest. So the first question for Dai is do you accept that bid was indeed a breach of the agreement to which Rodgers and Liverpool were parties? 2: Do you accept the chronology that seems unequivocal? After the failed bid, Allen came out and said he wanted to leave. We wouldn't budge and the trigger was pulled by Liverpool increasing the bid to £15M to effectively make Allen 'for sale', thus making the move perfectly legal. If you don't accept either of the above then you would be wrong because these facts are a mater of record. If you do accept the above how can you say that at the very least the initial breach amounts to Rodgers doing "nothing wrong"?
You're a brave man getting involved in this Rev. Good luck !! I'm going to sit back and not get involved on this. Not if I can help it anyway.
