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The Evolution of ‘Swanselona’

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by PaGaNsWaN, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. ShanghaiSwan

    ShanghaiSwan New Member

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    Yes, very true. But what I meant is that I don't think there's any need for bitterness towards Rodgers because we have done ok out of him leaving. So let's concentrate on ourselves and forget about Rodgers. No need for people to be so fixated on him. He did a job. Thanks. Now gone. Start of new (and better) era.

    Oh, we do have one other thing to thank Rodgers for - at least him leaving has stopped most of the bitterness towards Martinez.

    But the downside is that in a season or two (or more, hopefully), many Swans fans will hate Laudrup instead.

    Funny thing is that fans love it that Laudrup has brought in some players he used to work with, but they always hate it when ex-managers come back for players. It works both ways. Can't really have one without the other.
     
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  2. Kifflom!

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    "I don't think there's any need for bitterness towards Rodgers because we have done ok out of him leaving"

    Don't agree. The fact it's turned out well doesn't mean to say we're not allowed to dislike someone who breaks an agreement with our Club.

    I agree that some are bitter anyway, even just for leaving. I don't think that's right.
     
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  3. Breezy

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    Rodgers flying the coup with Allen & leaving 22 million behind for the team , after we've reached the Premier , is something I'll never forget ( in a good way ) .... EVER !! . Right from the beginning all I could concentrate on was the windfall , and as it all turned out ... it's all I should have concentrated on . Our future is fantastic ... the jury's still out on Rodgers & Allen's future though !
     
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  4. SA9JACK

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    I think any bitterness towards Rogers leaving was more to do with opening up old wounds from Martinez leaving under similar(ish) circumstances. In reality nobody could knock him for moving to a massive club like Liverpool and the 7 million plus the assurance that he'd leave our players alone softened the blow, but then coming back for Joe was a sucker punch. Yes, the 15 million was massive for us and we've probably improved because of it, but Rogers didn't do it to improve us, he didn't give a toss what it did to us and that's what pissed me off. Apart from that, onwards and upwards thanks to Huw.
    As far as Laudrup's future departure goes, I can see that being at the end of his 2 year contract to take the Denmark job so can't see there being any hard feelings for that...especially as it would mean he couldn't come back for our players :D
     
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  5. Breezy

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    I can see Laudrup staying a fairly long time ( in manager years ) after being unhappy with 3 short stints since Brondby . Laudrup likes his new found respect , it's all he wanted in the first place from a club & he has it with Huw & the club .
     
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  6. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Sa and kj you have both hit the nail on the head. Like all have said thanks for what you did. but the to come back in for Allen, being of a few people who knew about a release clause was well out of order. Bearing in mind this so called agreement between the two teams. I know have zero time for both Liverpool fc and ou ex leader.
     
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  7. Kifflom!

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    Me too. If that makes me bitter so what? Doesn't mean I think about them or him more than my own team because nothing could be further from the truth.

    Breezy, the way things are going I'd love Laudrup to stay longer but 2 years in the Prem is a lengthy stay by his standards as he hasn't hung around elsewhere for that long before. I'm sure he'll want to do well here for a whole host of reasons but it'll do his chances of getting the Denmark job no harm at all if he has two good seasons with us. I'm sure he's privately thinking that.

    If he gets us into the top half two seasons in a row (yes it's dreamland stuff I know) and then takes the Danish job he'll be a Jack legend around these parts and go with our blessing.
     
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  8. ShanghaiSwan

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    Regarding bitterness, I mean you can dislike someone for doing something wrong, but leave it at that and move one. Some people carry bitterness round with them for years, and it is them who suffer the effects not the person who did the wrong thing. So he broke the agreement, bad thing to do, so just forget about him. Not saying that you do this, but some on here do. So all I'm saying is that it's better if we focus on the positives we now have rather than the negatives of the past.
     
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  9. Kifflom!

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    ...as most do, Casual. But you're right in one respect - the amount of threads on Liverpool and Rodgers was crazy and I'm glad to see most have moved on. For now, at least.

    I see from the Beeb website he's told his players to "man up" in that if they have niggling injuries they should play through them. Smacks of desperation to many commentators and fans. Surprised we haven't had a thread on it. <laugh>
     
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  10. Breezy

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    If special things start happening at Swansea for Laudrup , he'll want to stay long term IMO .
     
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  11. SA9JACK

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    I bet that would go down like a cup of cold sick with the players too. Talking of the beeb website, why on the Swansea is the 'around the web' section all Liverpool related?? It has been for weeks. I checked other club's pages to see if it was the same, but the same section there is devoted to their own club
     
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  12. ShanghaiSwan

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    I've noticed that as well. It seems almost as if the BBC still have Rodgers down as being linked to Swansea, so stories about him show up on the Swansea page. But it could just be that Swansea are mentioned in the articles, and so they get linked that way. All articles about Rodgers and Liverpool seem to mention Swansea somewhere.
     
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  13. ShanghaiSwan

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    There was another article saying that it was Liverpool's worst start to a season in around 50 years, and also denials that there is a rift between Rodgers and the owners. So the situation is going to get very bad if they don't start winning soon. And they don't have easy matches coming up either. Should be interesting.
     
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  14. Rhysj1

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    Brilliant article!
     
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  15. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

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    Were you saying that just after the promotion, or have you just revised your opinion since the sale of Joe Allen?

    Also, is it only us non-Swans who think the 'Swansealona' tag is really cringeworthy and small-time?
     
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  16. SA9JACK

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    Is it only us non-Leeds who think the 'super super Leeds' tag is really cringeworthy and quite ridiculous for a has been club?
     
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  17. Jerel Ifil

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    No, because it's a super, super city and a super, super football club with a lot of profile and identity. :)

    Now will you respond to my question with an answer please, like I had the courtesy to do with yours?
     
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  18. valleyswan

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    Well considering it was non swans journos who tagged us with that, you will have to take it up with them. Just a shame that a fan of a has been small time thinking club has come here on the wind up. So I will give you the same answer I got when last I was on the Leeds forum by you - **** off !
     
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  19. Breezy

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    It's non swan fans that gave , give & probably will continue to give us the tag of Swansealona ... we've tried to stop them but to no avail
     
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  20. Jerel Ifil

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    <ok>

    Fair enough. I'm sure I saw it used by a couple of your fans on here though. Maybe it was ironically.
     
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