Sorry lads. I didn't explain myself.But as Dragon say's tapping up a player is very difficult to prove.I wonder if our spanish friends are wondering if Pablo has been tapped.The Valencia coach wants to keep him?
Of course he wants to keep him, he's a good player. But we wanted to keep joe as he's a good player as well. You can't stop clubs from approaching others about availability of players, it's then up to the player and club on whether they want/allow the chasing club to speak to him. The difference with Allen is that Brendan knew what his contract said, he knew that there was a £15m clause in it, and he knew that if he turned the players head he would get his man. He was helped by Craig Bellamy in TeamGB who was openly trying to get joe to sign for them, I know this to be a fact by the way as it came from Bellamy directly.
As far as Dempsey goes LFC did nothing wrong. Besides, it would be Ian Ayre, our chief executive, not Rodgers if there was an infringement. That is fact. We did nothing wrong. Fulham are trying to salvage a good position out of their best player refusing to play for them because he wants out. I refuse to comment on the agreement because none of us know what it stipulated or what went on. I can see why you feel how you do, however.
AT the end of the day lads, the agents are in the thick of these things for obvious reasons, and there's no doubt in my mind Joe's head was turned by Rodgers, proving it was tapping up, would prove very difficult, once the player has been informed of the financial package that's possibly on the table, Sky money talks in the Premiership!....
NI: "none of us know what it stipulated or what went on" Huw Jenkins, 1/6/12: “We have got some protection on Brendan coming back for our players in the initial period, which I think is the right thing. He has got a timescale to assess things there and that is going to take him while so I’ve got no worries there. We have got a 12 month respite.” Swansea also released a tersely worded press statement after the approach for Allen mentioning the bid that included "...despite Liverpool's assurances that they would not do so". Try again.
I think we'll leave that to the FA to decide. Or we could ask a neutral on here to say what they think, wonder if any man utd fans would oblige?
I'm to much in the lets " Move on " stage because it look pretty good coming out of our corner for round two & Rodgers has already been bruised early !!... DING !!
Just because he's in a minority doesn't mean he's wrong. Old Chinese proverb - just because 5 million people believe fiction is fact doesn't make it fact. Many on here can't think straight when it comes to Rodgers and Martinez. They'd say anything against him even if they knew it wan't true, so being in the majority doesn't mean much in this case. By the way, I'm not defending Rodgers at all, but too many on here are obsessed with him. We're almost top of the Premier and probably will be after tomorrow's match, so start supporting our team instead of worrying what Rodgers is up to. He's gone. It's official as well - check the Swans website.
and we are just like the bigger clubs that prey upon as (as you put it). So how did we get Taylor? By your analogy we preyed upon a weaker club. the way I see it is that all clubs are free to off to buy other players and all clubs are allowed to refuse the offers. Not sure how you think it should work. If a player signs a contract and is willing to stay until the end (Sinclair), the club want to boot them out to make some money. So it works both ways.
It's not a breach of the agreement if both sides agree to waive the agreement. Huw and the Swans board agreed to sell Allen, so no agreement was broken. Swans sold because it was in their best interest to sell (in the opinion of the board), and that's what they will do if they get good offers for other players. They have stated this publicly. I don't know why you and others can't see that the board agreed to this transfer. If Rodgers did wrong, then why didn't Huw report him? Obviously because Huw is happy with the deal. Aren't the Swans trying to unsettle Hernandez by saying the want him, even though his club say they want to keep him. If Rodgers is in the wrong, then so is almost every club. Just saying publicly that you admire a player isn't tapping him up. Do you want a situation where managers aren't allowed to talk about other players? Imagine what after match interviews would be like. Boring.
So Huw could have replied to Liverpool pointing out the agreement but instead he went ahead and negotiated with them. So why didn't Huw enforce the agreement? Answer: because he preferred the 15m.
Where in that did I say he was wrong? I just stated that he's was in a minority with his opinion on the issue of which none of us really know what is right or wrong and will be decided upon by the FA, so where the hell do Chinese Proverbs come into it??!! No obsession with Rogers, just a point of interest that involves our club that I thought was worthy of discussion. Some would say that an obsession would be posting multiple threads on his leaving
I actually agree with this to an extent. it was in our best interest to sell at that price, which is probably why Jenkins has been so quiet about it, but it should have been business between Jenkins and Rogers between closed doors without trying to to unsettle Allen first or we could have ended up with the same scenario as Dempsey wanting out
Can we be done for tapping up a player if we don't actually 'tap him up'? If they can complain about Rodgers publicly claiming that we made an inquiry then surely Pardew can be done for his many comments on Carroll and fat Sam's constant desire for the player too? By the way, I hope you smash fat Sam and his shower of **** excuse of football this weekend.
Everyone knows that 'tapping up' goes on, and generally if a club approaches someone and they want to go, then there going to go if the price is right. Where Liverpool overstepped the mark in Dempseys case is putting it on there website he was there player. A pretty stupid thing to do, and you can understand why Fulham have made a complaint.
My, you do share a lot with your manager don't you. He's full of **** too! Nob in Red you seem to be forgetting the FACT that the NESN websit is owned by, you know what I'm going to say little boy don't you hmmmm, yes FSG no link?
And that is what Politicians & Bankers always keep on saying, and we know what most people think of them. Methinks they doth protest too much. Yes, and I think you`ll find that most Swans fans were really happy with the £15 million, vastly overpriced, but hey ho, Liverpool have plenty of money, apparently. Bender`s gone so has Joe, I`ve moved on from them when they left. Support the present, not the past.
Casual: I see what you're saying but it's chicken and egg isn't it? I simply cannot see any scenario whereby the Swans would 'offer' Allen to Liverpool for £15M. An enquiry was made, despite a promise not to do so. The fact we've come out of it well is great, but it's still a breach of a promise. I think we can both agree on a couple of things though: Firstly we were right to accept the £15M. Outrageously overpriced imo. Secondly, we'll probably be a better club because of the deal. Thirdly, that taking players from one club to another isn't 'preying'. It's a matter of perspective. If the player wants to go and the price is right, job done. Swans fans are a very sentimental bunch, bless 'em.
