It clearly gets a bit hot in Le Midi too. Don't worry, Jerel, I won't take your unreasonable tirade to heart. Have a great holiday
'warnock out' what a load of tosh. 'diouf out' fair enough. but in all honesty unless you buy in players with 'chequered' pasts this is the only way you can get in quality without spending big money....
I don't see how it's a load of tosh to want rid of a manager who signs a player like Diouf, especially after what he has already said about him, and frankly he's done nothing to convince me he's worth keeping his job anyway. EDIT: The worst thing is that Diouf isn't even "quality" and hasn't been for years.
If I was Senegalese I would be insulted by that statement which I have put in bold. Your almost condoning domestic abuse because "he is Senegalese and it's part of their culture". Being a third world country does not make a country less developed morally, especially when religion such a predominant part of their lives. Throughout this thread you've asked for proof/evidence to back things up, where is yours that Senegal has more domestic violence counts? How you can defend Diouf is ridiculous.
Class manager, yes, but a class person, I'm not so sure now and his judgement can definitely be called into question with this deal IMO.
He will live or die on his results. The players he brings in are the ones he thinks will get him the results he needs.To be honest when we signed Vinnie Jones there were not many who thought that it was the best move footballing wise but the ends justified the means and it turned out alright and the manager was proved right. Hindsight is wonderful, we will only know for certain about Neill Warnock at the end of his contract, but he certainly has a decent CV so here is hoping he knows what he is doing even if I need convincing that Diouf is a good signing.
If that was unreasonable, please tell me on ETHICAL, not cultural grounds why pathetic and cowardly acts of aggression like woman-beating and spitting are either justifiable, condonable or should in any way be swept under the carpet merely because some idiot has decided to sign the perpetrator for Leeds. El Hadji Diouf is scum, just like Cantona, George Best, Alex Ferguson, Ryan Giggs, Roy Keane, Wayne Rooney, David De Gea, Patrice Evra and all the other criminal and immoral ****wits that have populated that club. He has the scum mentality. I don't want ****ing scum at Leeds. Shame on you if you do, apologist. Leeds is about being firm, strong and passionately hard-working, not being a mercurial, half-arsed tosser who occasionally spits, abuses and tackles badly. Shame so many Leeds fans don't know what Dirty Leeds actually means, in terms of the Revie philosophy. The Don wouldn't have wiped his arse with a rodent like Diouf.
That's something else that annoys me. I'm fine with people having their own opinions as to why the signings OK, that's life, but Diouf is about as far as it is possible to get from "Dirty Leeds" and I'm sick of some of our ****wit supporters using it to justify the signing. "Now we're definitely the most hated club haha #dirtyleeds"... **** off.
And, so far, his results have not been good. (I know 'Grayson's team blah, blah, blah' - a team that was seventh which he took to 14th). The trouble is he can walk away and lift his pension if his results are poor. It's us, the Leeds fans, who'll suffer if he messes it all up.
Giving a back-hand to your missus in the UK was a perfectly acceptable practice a generation or so ago. Spanking your kids is still done by many in UK. If you have read the Koran you will understand a little about the muslim culture and the way that women are treated -absolutely revered in most circumstances but treated poorly and allowed to be beaten "lightly" in some circumstances. Under some circumstances, some women are stoned to death in some countries. Domestic violence is defined differently also, along with family honour. If you do not wish to open your eyes to the ways that other peoples deal with things, nor to the fact that we as a nation have not yet stopped domestic violence, I can not help you. I do not condone anythign he has done. I say that there could be cultural reasons why it is not as frowned upon in their culture - but my main point is that, since 2004, none of those things have happened. So he has learnt. Yet some still berate him. I despair sometiomes at the intransigence of some.
I'm over the moon with this signing, he has some class on the pitch and some real quality, what the media write about him bothers me not one ****ing bit. Where a football team, he's a football player and at this level a very good one. That's all that matters to me.
Sold after threatening a team-mate = 2009 No licence or insurance + 2 other unnamed driving offences = 2010 Arrested after brawl in nightclub = April this year
But he's not! His career's been on a downward arc for years, resulting in us being the only club willing to take him after playing for Doncaster.
1. Maybe the team mate deserved it. 2. Diouf ...No insurance, the lad probably has enough money in his wallet to buy my car 10 times over. 3. Haven't we all? I have 2 mates that support Donny, and they thought he was their best player. I'm not saying he's premiership class but what I'm told he can do a job, and the scenes if he spits in Jordan Rhodes face.
1. He wouldn't have been sold. 2. No licence or insurance as well as the other 2 unnamed ones, but he has money so it's OK? 3. No we haven't. It's wouldn't be difficult to be Donny's best player last season. He's clearly a pretty unsavoury character, it's fine to say that doesn't matter if that's honestly you're opinion, but I really don't see how people can dress it up as a different culture or media perception.
Well I'm not wanting to look to much into it, because the main thing our opinion differs on is i think he will add to the team performances, and you don't. All the rest of it, i couldn't care. If he helps Leeds get promoted, the rest is old news.
It's fine if that's what you think. It just annoys me when people try to gloss over the other parts with excuses to make themselves feel better. If you honestly think it's just how he performs on the pitch that matters then that's fine by me, I don't want to get into any silly arguments about stuff like that.
