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Joe Allen a bargain at £15M

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Manciniiiiiii, Aug 12, 2012.

  1. Manciniiiiiii

    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    Ronnie Whelan, Nigel Spackman, Kevin MacDonald, Xavi Alonso, Joe Allen. What do they all have in common? Well, according to some fans of Liverpool football club, they are all players who were not good enough to wear the Liver Bird on their shirt. That was, until those fans saw them play. All of those players were signed by managers who had an insight into how they wanted their team to perform, and they had a plan. The managers who signed them for Liverpool, if not the fans, knew exactly where those players would fit in and exactly what they would bring to their teams.

    Brendan Rodgers has now done likewise with the signing of Joe Allen. Before the Olympics, when the Liverpool interest in Allen was first being discussed, most Liverpool fans could be heard saying 'good player' or 'would be okay for a few million to add to the squad', or perhaps 'at least he is better than Charlie Adam.' Now Liverpool have allegedly spent £15 million on Joe Allen and the same fans can be heard saying 'too expensive', 'we were robbed' or 'Brendan Rodgers is out of his depth'. If you take a glance into the most successful periods of Liverpool FC history, you might just see that Brendan perhaps knows something those fans don't.

    When Xavi Alonso signed for Liverpool, in August 2004, the then Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez spent £10.5 million on a player who had only ever played for his local team and who had just had one really good, if not prolific season at Real Sociedad. At the time fans wondered whether that sort of transfer budget could have been invested more wisely in a 'top player'. Twelve months later, and with a fifth European Champions title secured just 9 months after signing Alonso, Liverpool fans were in no doubt what Xavi had brought to the team Rafa Benitez was building.

    If we cast our memories back even further, to the days of Ronnie Whelan, we remember a hostile kop often asking 'what he brings to the team', 'what does he add?' and 'does he deserve a place in the side?' These days, Whelan is rightly remembered as a Liverpool legend and was even voted 30th in a fans poll of 100 players who shook the kop.

    The Liverpool team was missing something last season. Nobody seemed to be certain what it was but there was a vital cog missing in the machine. The engine sounded good and got rave performances, but it did not run as it should, the team could not close out games or get that second goal that finishes the opposition off. Missing this cog was making the engine run a little less smoothly than we all thought it should, including those at Fenway Sports Group who had invested heavily in the team during pre-season. The team stuttered, they were quick on the break but often gave away possession - a sin for any member of any Liverpool FC team. What players like Whelan, MacDonald, Spackman and Alonso brought to respective Liverpool teams was time, patience and consistency. These were vital cogs supporting the super stars that played in front of them in the trophy laden Liverpool sides.

    It is these same qualities that Brendan Rodgers sees in Joe Allen. Allen will be charged with helping Liverpool play, keeping the game flowing and allowing others to shine by buying them the space and time to play in. It is not always the most expensive components that are the most vital to any slick piece of machinery; it is, in fact, often a small but vital part that prevents its smooth operation. Joe Allen is that small but vital part of Liverpool's future and at £15 million he is far from the most expensive part in that machine.

    Xavi Alonso was also that small but vital cog in his Liverpool team and before leaving for Real Madrid, he had become an overnight legend for Liverpool fans, with his loss is still mourned today. When Real Madrid bought him, they knew what they were getting - a vital cog that enables players like Ronaldo to go and score a record number of goals. If Liverpool fans had thought Alonso was expensive when Rafa brought him to Anfield, that was nothing compared to the price Madrid paid when he left. During his time at Liverpool, Alonso had trebled in value and that is the kind of business that is music to the ears of Fenway Sports Group.

    Liverpool fans may feel that Joe Allen is a little over priced but don't be surprised if Real Madrid come calling at Anfield again in a few years - this time for Joe Allen, at £45million, three times what Liverpool have just paid for Brendan Rodgers' vital cog.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/sportsnet/so...verpool-fc-and-a-bargain-at-15million_837.htm
     
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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

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    It's Xabi Alonso....
     
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  3. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    I know you're trying to be sincere, but you are beginning to sound like a Manchester United fan. I've heard a lot of them singing the praises of Nick Powell who according to them is the new Platini. Joe Allen hasn't kicked a ball for the reds yet and you're coming out with this? He may and this is may turn out to be a young Xabi Alonso or he may struggle like Jordan Henderson did last season under the weight of a massive fee.

    Its a bit premature to come out with this stuff. You're only going to land yourself with ridicule.
     
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  4. Manciniiiiiii

    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the advice, but your telling the wrong guy<ok>

    http://www.ibtimes.com/sportsnet/so...verpool-fc-and-a-bargain-at-15million_837.htm
     
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  5. ccfcremotesupport

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    I prefer the deal we got. Craig Bellamy £0! He even took a huge pay cut to join us.
     
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  6. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    He did that because he wanted to return home. He was offered more to join QPR and turned it down. He's overall a great professional, even though a bit mad at times. He was well known for being a fantastic trainer. You got a great deal thats for sure. He will give 100% and more.
     
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  7. ccfcremotesupport

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    I understand the reason behind the move which goes to show how genuine he is a person. We know what we're getting as we had him the season before last.

    THe players from that squad have great respect for him, not just on the field, but his professional approach in training and off it. I think we have a better squad and game plan this year so expect him to be even more influential with the players around him being able to make more use of his intelligent runs and to profit from his delivery into the danger area.

    Although from S Wales I now live in Cheshire and work with a few Liverpool fans who are gutted that he's leaving.
     
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  8. Sir Kenny Dalglish

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    For a lad that is well known to start a riot in a phone-box, he's actually one of the nicest people in football. There is the golf club incident which most people remember. What they fail to remember is the charity work he does in Sierra Leone during the summer. He had a decent season at Liverpool and I think the reason he left was because he felt his family was the most important. Its obvious that he was affected by the death of his close friend Gary Speed.
     
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  9. Lucaaas

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    Who the hell said Xabi Alonso wasn't good enough to play for Liverpool before he signed? Do you just make things up as you go along?

    As for the rest of the players you listed, I expect Allen to be more than a water carrier/squad player for £15m, which is what those you listed apart from Alonso were.
     
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  10. Manciniiiiiii

    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    Correction<ok>

    http://www.ibtimes.com/sportsnet/so...verpool-fc-and-a-bargain-at-15million_837.htm
     
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  11. Ze

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    Put the source in the original post please; otherwise it can be misleading.
     
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  13. Welshred

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    Rodwell to Man City for 15m plus add ons makes it look a bargain. I know which player I'd rather.
     
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  14. Manciniiiiiii

    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    I think it is the signing we look back on in a few years and say 'bloody hell', that was a bargain'.
     
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  15. Master Yoda

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    Yeh I think Allen will more than justify his price.
     
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  16. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    That will be Shelvey!
     
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  17. Master Yoda

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    or Borini...
     
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  18. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Or Downing <whistle>
     
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  19. Manciniiiiiii

    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    I would suggest he makes a valid point, even if he makes it in an unorthodox fashion.
     
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  20. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    Gotta agree <ok> Was well happy when we bought Alonso...always doubts when you sign any player especially into a different style of football but anyone who knew even a little about him was excited as I remember.
     
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