You think it's ok for innocent people to die - you can stop arguing now because that's just sealed it. I wonder how you would react if you knew for a fact your brother or sister(hypothetical before you say you're an only child) was innocent and they faced the noose. I suspect your view would be different
Don't get the "innocent people will be put to death" thing. Innocent people get locked up for 30 years, if we didn't have prisons, no one would ever get locked up who was innocent. Is that a logical thought process? I think the death penalty should be brought back for crimes where it is impossible that the person is innocent. DNA, CCTV. They're about the only 2 things I can think of. And when sentenced, the perpetrator should have a painful, public death, not a frigging painless, behind closed doors injection.
No one is saying otherwise miscarriages of justice need to be sorted regardless of the death penalty. However, they shouldnt be the sole reason for saying no to having the death penalty. As I said in the OP most miscarriages of justice are not accidental. They are perpetrated by those in power/authourity. Would they be if the punishment for falsifying evidence /testimonies was death?
Not sure where you get that I think its Ok for innocent people to die. I gave the example of innocents getting killed because a convict was released after 15 years. His initial crime was rape and murder of young innocents. Yet the state had abolished the death penalty, so hge served 15 years. Had he faced the death penalty for his crimes a lot of people wouldnt have died
Finally someone who gets what I was saying. There is evidence to suggest that if the process from sentencing to death wasnt so long and that the sentence wasnt a behind closed doors thing then the death penalty would serve as a deterrant, as most people fear death
Even the CCTV & DNA argument isn't trustworthy. How many mentally ******ed people have the yanks murdered in the name of the state over the last 100 years? If the perp's ability to determine right from wrong means nothing, why shouldn't we also execute 5 year olds as well? There will never be a 100% watertight conviction and if 'closure' for families is so important, try giving 'closure' to the family of someone wrongfully murdered, in public, by the state...
Sending people to Prison does not seem to have sopped crime, so using your theory , we might as well close all jails! ****wit! Rubbish the death penalty is a PUNISHMENT! Christ when did our system of justice forget about the punishment bit! FFS how dare we execute someone. Yet when soldiers do it in our names they get medals! And the death Penalty is only expensive in Liberal countries with endless automatic appeals to sooth the hearts of the bleeding heart liberals. ****ing China gives the ****ers a couple of months to inspect their arseholes and puts a bullet in their ****ing head. Why the **** we are paying 40K a year for scum like huntley to continue living escapes me, althought all those against the death penalty , should pay the extra to keep the ****ers under lock and key!
With idiots like you living among us, I think forced state sterilisation could be the way towards a better and safer society. It may take a few generations, but.....
Get the **** out, so just becuase your metally ******ed that excuses murder?? oh I'm sorry my brain did not allow me to know that beating someone to death with a brick was bad? **** THE **** OFF , we kill dogs for less! Your a danger to the populace and you killed someone for no reason accept for the fact you werent born with the capacity to see right from wrong, well you will be executed so that you never do it again!
With ****ers like you, all I wish is your mum had of swallowed your dads spunk, and thereby spared us your utter utter drivel, you complete and utter waste of space. Now **** off back to ****ing over the guardian, go on **** OFF!
I dont know the answer to that one. However using your rational is it ok to keep a mentally ******ed person in prison? or even try a mentally ******ed person in e first place? surely the notion of justice applies to those who are sane. There ARE 100% watertight convictions, Hunty, Hindley, yorkshire ripper. The list goes own In fact I will go out on a limb here and say that there are a lot more 100% watertight convictions than not. I think whenever this argument is put forward, re death penalty, people automatically look at the USA. The legal system in the US is ****ed and unfortunately we are starting to adopt most of it over here. Sure the justice system needs to be sorted, however it doesnt negate the debate for the death penalty As for closure as a mother once said 'I get to talk to my child in the cemetary, his mum speaks to him weekly in prison''
china used firing squads for executions and now largely lethal injection The Us used methods such as burning, crushing, breeaking on a wheel, beheading, bludgeoning and hanging
I wish the death penalty was re-introduced. Put it this way, a fairly recent study stated (roughly) that it costs the taxpayer nigh on £40k a year to keep one reprobate behind bars. You get a lifer on say...a 25 year tariff, then that's £1m just to keep a schmuck locked up. Why not spend the 4p it costs on a bullet and save us a fortune?
problem is whenever this topic is discussed people bring forth different variables, and divert from the actual discussion. people talk of detterance. why? should myra hindley be killed to deter others or for HER crimes? there are studies which suggest capital punishment does deter. the studies that argue against this mainly use the line ''murders are committed as crimes of passion or under the influence of drugs and alcohol or by mentally ******ed people'' line surely thats why we have courts/juries and notions of diminished responsibility etc. although drugs and alcohol are no excuse imo
A discussion without variables. Shall we all just say we agree with you and the other 2 tards that support you in your feeble mindedness and be done with it then? I'll go first; I agree with the pro death penalty crew
