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Brendan Rodgers sack watch

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by UIR - Kagawa Powa, Aug 11, 2012.

  1. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    hahahahahahahahaha.

    Baz, if only you knew <ok>
     
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    Tbf HAIG makes some very valid points, especially if he bases his views on Liverpool fans around Baz <ok>
     
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    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    You been on the plum brandy again lad?
     
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    No just how popular you are.
     
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    Manciniiiiiii Well-Known Member

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    childish, just how old are you?
     
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    hahahahahaha

    regardless of my age its 5 times yours mentally Baz <ok>
     
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  7. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    This is coming from a supporter of a club that may and this may start the season with no strikers. The one recognised striker they do have, 10 league goals every 2 seasons Jermaine Defoe wants to leave. They can't have Adebayor as Manchester City are refusing to pay £120k of his wages for a second season should Adebayor join Spurs on a permanent deal. Why should they? I know they were silly enough to do it last season, but it can't be done forever, just because Spurs wage limit is £70k a week.

    They also have a manager who uses a defensive high-line, which is so easy to exploit Liverpool who last season had a 9% chance conversion rate exploited it when he was Chelsea manager. As bad as Redknapp was, Spurs have jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. Tactical naivity and a serious lack of management skills is an incredibly bad combination. In my opinion the favourite to be sacked out of Brendan Rodgers, Roberto Di Matteo and AVB is....AVB.
     
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    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    This is coming from a supporter of a club who may and this is may have no recognised strikers. Jermaine Defoe who only scores 10 league goals every two seasons wants to leave. If you add that to the defensive high-line that Villas Boas adopts, its a recipe for disaster. Spurs fans thought they were going to get Adebayor and Manchester City having sold him to them were going to pay 75% of his wages. That may have happened when Adebayor was on loan, but it doesn't happen when a player signs permanently.

    As bad as Redknapp was and he was tactically clueless, although a good man manager, Spurs have jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire. Roman Abramovich is well known to sack more managers than people have hot dinners for a change got this one spot on. It was proven when Roberto Di Matteo with exactly the same players won the champions league.
     
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  9. This thread is not about AVB, it's about Brendan Rodgers.

    Most of us neutral fans believe he will be a prime candidate for the sack, next season.

    You can't argue with that.
     
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  10. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    The reason I made the 3 threads about these 3 managers is because not one of them is certain to be there come the end of the season.

    AVB at Spurs is much more secure, spurs are not hot heads like Chelsea, Liverpool or City.

    I also rate AVB, hes one of a few managers ever to go a season unbeaten and his mentors were some of the greatest managers ever. The guy knows what hes doing and anyone who doubts that bases it solely on his time at Chelsea...... its like saying Phil Scholari is rubbish based on his time at Chelsea or that RDM is a better manager than Mourniho because he just so happened to be the guy listed as manager when Chelsea won it.

    Find me some normal people who share such opinions.
     
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    I hope rodgers is given time for the record, as I do RDM.

    Mancini can get sacked now for all I care, **** him the **** ****. Overrated to ****. And what if he won the league, give me £930million and I will bring you a treble.
     
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  12. HRH Custard VC

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    He will be sacked end of season
     
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  13. Agreed.

    AVB will have to have a absolutely disastrous season for him to get the sack. "Disastrous" for us is that we end up fighting a relegation battle.

    "Disastrous" for the Mousers is if they don't win the EPL.

    Us Spurs fans have a far greater grip on reality than do the Mousers, hence we do not turn on our managers like pack of wolves when the manager gets the club to finish where it should finish in the EPL. Any sane and rational person would have told you that, last season, 'Pool would have finished no higher than 7th (I actually thought that they did well to finish 8th), but the delusion of the Mousers was so strong that even their once-great legend Kenny-boy Daglish was not immune from the sack.

    I see no change in the delusions of the average Mouser. Indeed, I think they have got worse. Which means that BR's days are surely numbered, even before a ball has been kicked in anger. Sadly, it is all merely a matter of time.
     
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  14. Sir Kenny Dalglish

    Sir Kenny Dalglish Well-Known Member

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    Brendan Rodgers isn't expected to win the title. He's not even expected to finish top four in the new season. The owners have told him he will be given time to achieve that. He out of the mentioned 3 is under the least amount of pressure. The one that could end up talking himself into the sack like Mourinho did at Chelsea is Roberto Mancini.

    Villas Boas should he use the defensive high-line and have no strikers and have Luka Modric with the hump could and this is could also find himself in a spot of bother. These are factors which could leave Spurs being nowhere near the top four. This is possible for the reasons I've mentioned.
     
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  15. I'm one of the many Spurs fans who is extremely skeptical that Levy has called it right by appointing AVB, and I'd be lying to you if I said that I am entirely confident that he has learned from the several mistakes that he made at the Chavs.

    However, the man does have undoubted talents as a coach, as he proved at Porto, and I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, for the time being. I think he would have to be extremely stupid to try exactly the same tactics at Spurs that failed to work for him at Chelsea, and he does not appear to be a stupid man. You probably have not paid much attention to our pre-season games, but I have got to admit that I have been impressed with the way he has set the teams up, bearing in mind that we are at least two strikers short, and we are carrying injuries to a couple of key players.

    As I said before, AVB would have to find himself in a relegation battle to be in danger of being sacked in his first season with us, and I cannot see that happening.

    For 'Pool fans, however, I really do not think you will be satisfied with anything less than top 4, and I simply cannot see you getting it, not with your squad, and with Rodgers' inexperience at that level. You turned on Hodgson almost before your season had begun, and I think he's a better EPL manager than Rodgers. I really do think you have to prepare yourselves for another very difficult season.
     
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    HIAG I know that you don't let facts get in the way of a good wum. But most of our games we had the best of the possession and chances. Unfortunately our finishing was nothing short of **** which meant we finished lower than we should have if we had our usual conversion rate.

    We had a top 4 defensive record, hopefully this Allen deal will keep Adam out of the team and Borini has a decent conversion rate. Mixed with Rodgers' first season with us I think we will get 6th/7th. <ok>
     
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    The reason Liverpool fans turned on Roy Hodgson was because of his daft comments. I cannot see Brendan Rodgers saying a 2-0 away defeat to Everton is ''our best performance of the season'' He also said that his expectation at the turn of the year was 9th.
    There was 1 goal in the difference between Hodgsons WBA and Brendan Rodgers Swansea, they were level on points. That makes Brendan Rodgers the better manager as WBA had been an established PL side and Swansea had just been promoted.

    Brendan Rodgers has been media friendly, he's said all the right things, and he expects a serious level of hard work. If he doesn't get it, the squad will be dismantled and he will sign players that will put in that hard work. He's not expected to finish in the top four. I don't know why you're coming out with this rubbish, in an earlier post, you said the minimum target for BR and Liverpool is the title. Now it seems you've changed the goal-posts and contradicted yourself.

    As for AVB and a defensive high-line. A normal person would hold their hands up and admit they made mistakes. However AVB is not a normal person, he's still blaming the Chelsea players for him getting the boot. It of course was not his failings. Therefore I do not think he will learn from his mistakes and not use a defensive high line.
     
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  18. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Being a Liverpool fan and how your lot acted under Woy I can understand how you feel players being ****s can only be blamed on the manager.

    The fact is the Chelsea players played a huge part, the significant part in his sacking. He was doing better than RDM did in the league after all. He didnt have the luxury of knock out anyone on the day can win football like RDM had.
     
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    You are missing the point. Chelsea under AVB had as much chance of winning the Champions League as there was of Gary Glitter being allowed be bouncer at an under 15s disco. Chelsea under RDM did win the CL, as he reunited a divided squad. Chelsea's mess was caused not by the players, but by AVB. All clubs have egos, the key to success is for the manager to have a bigger one.

    Hodgson made massive mistakes, and like AVB blamed everyone but himself. Yes he was never wanted to begin with, because us Liverpool fans were upset Rafa was sacked. As I said Hodgsons long list of daft comments did not help him.
     
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    Did you think RDM had a chance of winning the CL? I doubt it.

    While he was at fault in part, the players also were. I think he was told to start a new era at chelsea, out with the old and in with the new so to speak and he went a little to far with it. However chelsea were and right now are looking to bring in new blood and a new style. The senior players clearly took offence to this guy who was in some cases younger than them coming in and laying down the law. I have no doubt they instigated every part of it. We are talking about John Terry for **** sake, he has form for doing this sort of thing after all.

    AVB was like a lamb to the slaughter against the senior players at Chelsea. They will be finished when they decide not some punk manager.
     
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