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Chelsea's John Terry denies FA charge of abusing QPR's Anton Ferdinand

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  1. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    ..Chelsea's John Terry denies FA charge of abusing QPR's Anton Ferdinand
    Chelsea captain John Terry has denied an FA charge of using racist language towards QPR defender Anton Ferdinand.

    John Terry has already faced a court case over the alleged incident (Picture: AFP/Getty)
    ...Terry was acquitted of a racially aggravated public order offence in court a fortnight ago, in relation to a verbal clash with Ferdinand during a match at Loftus Road on October 23 last year.

    The FA halted its investigation into the incident until the legal proceedings were concluded but, having taken advice from an independent QC, has now decided to act.

    In a statement released via its website, the governing body said: 'It is alleged that Terry used abusive and/or insulting words and/or behaviour towards Queens Park Rangers' Anton Ferdinand, contrary to FA rules.

    'It is further alleged that this included a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Anton Ferdinand.

    'This charge is the result of The FA's long-standing enquiries into this matter, which were placed on hold pending the outcome of the criminal trial, and relates to rules governing football only.'

    Terry was given until August 3 to respond to the charge, but the England international took just minutes to react.

    In a statement, the Chelsea star said: 'I deny the charge and I will be requesting the opportunity to attend the commission for a personal hearing.'

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    Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footba...of-abusing-qprs-anton-ferdinand#ixzz21stBL0F3
     
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  2. Eamon Holmes

    Eamon Holmes Well-Known Member

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    Well he would, wouldn't he. And the slippery turd will probably get away with it.

    The one consolation is that in ten years time, when he is but a distant memory in the game, he will go down for something. His sort always get theirs in the end. Just you wait and see.
     
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  3. TraleeRanger

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    I think he will get away it because how can they find him guilty after he was found not guilty in a court of law?.........Not that I think he is innocent.

    IMHO the FA should have just had a meeting with the pair, warned them about there future conduct and drawn a line under it. It's a no win situation now and I would rather just get on with the football!!
     
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  4. Busy Being Headhunted

    Busy Being Headhunted Well-Known Member

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    The F.A will charge Terry because he admitted saying the comments he went to court for and they are under pressure from a lot of premiership players past and present to take action
     
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  5. Ranger74

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    Different burden of proof.....beyond reasonable doubt versus balance of probability.
     
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  6. TraleeRanger

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    So he is not guilty in the eyes of the law but guilty in the eyes of the FA? To me it doesnt make sense. When Woodgate and Bowyer were charged with a racially motivated attack they were banned from being picked for England until the court case was over and sentences served, but JT was allowed to carry playing for the national team even with the court case hanging over him? The FA needs to review their disciplinary procedures and set out a clear set of guidelines for players who break the law.
     
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  7. Ranger74

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    Perfectly normal. It's the same with any civil court case compared to a criminal case. The implications of a criminal conviction are very different. All it says is that Terry managed to create an element of doubt in the criminal case however on balance people would say its more likely he did use and intend to use racist language than not. Hopefully he will correctly be found guilty and punished accordingly.
     
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  8. TraleeRanger

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    Ok I understand that, but......I just think that if they find Terry guilty then the FA could be creating more problems than it is worth. We all know he has admitted using the phrase but has stated that it was not intended to be racist, therefore IMHO if the FA arranged a meeting with JT and Anton and got them to publicly end the feud and get JT to agree to publicly support their Kick racism out of football campaign and hold say workshops with young kids explaining how the mis-use of racist or predjudice language of any sort is totally unacceptable and what the consequences are rather than charge him, ban him and fine him then I think football would be seen to be tackling a problem rather than lining the coffers and potentially creating more problems.
     
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    100 lashes
     
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  10. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    how can you "****ing black ****" not be racist
    if you believe something to be true ,it is no defence
     
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  11. TraleeRanger

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    I am not saying it is not racist. But JT did and was found not guilty in a court of law. So my point is, rather than the FA going against what the courts have said and finding JT guilty, which he will then no doubt appeal and drag this saga on even longer, I just wish the FA could look at a more practical solution which would benefit the game in the long term and put an end to this sorry mess.
     
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  12. Flyer

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    Why does it not make sense? OJ was found not guilty in a criminal court but found guilty in a civil court that less of a burden of proof.

    A court case finding someone "not guilty" doesnt mean they were innocent, just that there wasnt enough evidence to convict them. Two entirely separate things. The sweaties have a not proven verdict which is what would have happened here meaning hes guilty but it couldnt be proven.
     
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  13. Ranger74

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    Everyone knows he's guilty, as flyer said they couldn't prove it to the required standard.
    Most interesting aspect of the whole case for me was the letter of support from the chelsea team. It was signed by many but not Drogba, malouda, mikkel and kalou to name a few. Can anyone spot the link between them??! (no prizes).
     
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  14. Flyer

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    Dont forget 2 requested a transfer right after as well, Alex and Anelka.
     
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