Anmaar; The was designed to give a vast majority of money to a few clubs...UEFA devalued and then got rid of the Cup Winners Cup and has turned the UEFA cup into a poor imitation of the CL making it financially worth **** all... None of my points have been anti arsenal...I am 45 and remember when the FA Cup and League cup were considered worth winning as was the UEFA and Cup winners cups. Now everything is top 4 and qualifying for the CL is more important than winning any trophy. To my mind that is bad for football. Inflation and the recession are not to blame for the cost of going to football matches .... huge wages and transfer fees and agents fees are. It's farcical that Arsenal paying £100k a week to their top stars and £50k a week to the players like Bendtner and this is not considered a lot. The same is true of Spurs where we "only" pay a maximum of £65k a week. This is killing the game. It's breeding greed, arrogance and a contempt for fans. Modric wants to leave us cos he 'wants' CL football and can treble his £50k salary...no where does he say that maybe if he didn't go into hiding for march and april he may have had that with spurs! Look at RVP...adored by gooners, kept on by your club when he was constantly injured (betwwen 2007/08 and the end of 2009/10 he played less games than jonathan woodgate) but now he's refusing to sign a new contract....and there are calls to pay him what he's worth cos he is only on £90k a week. sorry you don't think I would give a **** about the health of football in general but some fans do give a **** ... I have no affiliation to Rangers but it must be horrible for their fans to watch there club die....it don't make me better than fans who don't care less and I haven't claimed to be better, I just have a different opinion.
not the old " one man team sh1t again." Let me point out for you ******ed spuds AGAIN, for the 10th time. WHEN we stuffed FIVE goals against your crap team , our "one man " scored only ONE goal . Who scored the other FOUR if we are a ONE man team .? Dumb bastards !
Ammaar, that won't change much to be honest, I don't think the Europa is devalued because of prize money, it is devalued because of prestige. by having the best teams continually in the CL thats the competition people want to watch. Even if you made the prize money for the Europa League equal to the CL, who wants to watch Benfica V Lyon when you can watch Barca V Man U ?!! When I was a child the 3 Euro competitions had equal billing in my eyes, I did not distinguish anything between them. When Arsenal won the Cup Winner's Cup I went down to Highbury to celebrate - all the way from Finsbury Park to Highbury was beeping horns, flags waving and others making their way to the stadium, it was brilliant. The only way to give credibility to the Europa League is to return the Euro competitions to what they were previously. I remember the argument that it was harder to win the UEFA Cup than the European Cup because there were more top teams in the UEFA than the European Cup. If ONLY the winners qualify for the Champions League then many big teams will be in the Europa League which immediately drives interest up for it. Increase prize money too and you lessen the need for clubs to overspend to qualify for the top competition. This rewards winners of Cups too if they qualify. Have 2 large (2 groups of 8 or 10) CL groups instead of the silly number we currently have and make the top 4 in each group (and maybe best runners up) qualify for the knockout stages. Greed from UEFA has messed up world football.
I love the reaction we get to the one man team charge! You bite every time . Anyway, we would judge it over a season, not one (horrendous) game. What proportion of your goals did Reliant Robin get? I don't know, but I bet it is a high percentage. What did your second top scorer get?
The world class CENTRE FORWARD that started nearly all the games got most of the goals shock!!! Although, I have to agree we are a one man team, everyone saw how badly we struggled without the magician that is Mikel Arteta.
You have mediocre strikers, thats why they share the goals evenly amongst each other. any top striker will score the majority of goals for a team. Ronaldo ... Messi .... Does that make the rest of the team sub standard ?
Really ? Try to use logic or common sense when you post on the Arsenal board How does wanting someone to spend "a little" money equate to them being children you fukwit ? And no, me calling you a fukwit does not make me childish, it makes me honest
Hot Head, There are plenty of Arsenal fans who want Usmanov to bankroll AFC in the same way Abramovich does with Chelsea.The're the fans i'm talking about
Crying about one club spending a billionaires money and at the same time crying that you want someone to spend loads on your club is something more than childish. I was just being polite. So you backwards ****, stop being so childish, woman.
i would like to contribute to this debate..however i am too busy drawing up a shortlist of superstars we might sign incase the takeover bid is true....plus im trying to come up with a witty signature for the Chelsea fans for when they remind me about my hypocrisy...but in the meantime....ive got me a sweet tooth and want some cake.
I'm one of the fans wanting Usmanov to come in and invest a bit of money, what wrong with that? investing a bit of money does not mean that I want him to buy a completely new team but to have one or two extra additions that we previously couldn't afford. How many times have we missed out on fantastic players by 1 or 2 million? Mata was a recent example of this
Who exactly is doing this then? granted i've only briefly look at the comments on here but haven't really seen anyone do as you have said
Again I have not seen to my knowledge claiming we need 'bankrolling' as you put it, I have been one of the most vocal fans in favor of Usmanov coming but have always try to stress that our base squad is not that bad, the first team is pretty good but needs a few additions. However the rest of our squad is very weak and we have too many injury prone players who do nothing but drain us financially. If teams like Spurs start having rich investors pouring money (I have no issue with that) then we would need someone like Usmanov just to keep up, City were realistically going nowhere but down until they got major investments
Whether it's fans phoning radio programmes,writing to fanzines or posting on internet forums.I'm also talking about the people i travel on the coach or train with to games.The fact is there are plenty of Arsenal fans who would like Usmanov to buy AFC and bankroll it
That maybe so however your comments are generalizing us on these forums and could easily be misinterpreted by other fans on these boards as us being hypocritical when this isn't the case and even if some fans want Usmanov to buy the club and bankroll us like City you cant be to judgmental as they are entitled to their oppinions I would hardly call them hypocrites or childish for that especially in this league in which we continually see mediocre clubs who are going nowhere but are then catapulted to title challengers, the amount of smug City fans i have seen and heard from over the last few seasons has been ridiculous and we all know that they would not be able to compete if it wasn't for the massive investments they have had.
The world exists beyond this thread. Also I never referred to any particular fan of a particular club. Many a fan, usually young and naive think money solves all problems. They see a Chelsea or a City buying all their FIFA faves and think thats how there club should do it. Other fans think differently, we like to do things properly. A bit of graft and a few ups and downs. Makes it all the sweeter when you do succeed.
You quoted goonercymraeg who was specifically talking about Arsenal fans and said they were childish, I would consider that as an attack to us here on the board (I am not saying you meant it that way as you have clearly said otherwise) but you can see why HH was a bit annoyed by you comment
