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Dyche Sacked - Official

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Saxet, Jul 3, 2012.

  1. Saxet

    Saxet Well-Known Member

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  2. hornethologist a.k.a. theo

    hornethologist a.k.a. theo Well-Known Member

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    It's the real world I suppose but I do feel for him. He worked hard, talked sense, responded to fans and seemed a genuine individual with a lot more about him than many supposed at first. Regardless of whether he gets a job elsewhere, and I hope he does soon, I'm sure he will be very disappointed.
     
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  3. Lloydinio

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    very sad and unfair
     
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  4. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    I am very, very surprised following the 2nd half of your season. I thought, under the circumstances, he did a very good job but obviously the powers that be do not agree.

    Hope this does not prove to be a bad move for you guys this season.
     
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  5. Proud Fox

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    Feel sorry for him, he has done a cracking job. Losing Danny Graham, Marvin Sordell and Will Buckley and still finishing in a very good postion in the league. When Malky left i along with everyone else thought you would be dead and buried by christmas. After a shaky start Dyche really got some decent results. No doubt he will get a job soon weather its a top League 1 job or another championship team
     
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  6. Bolton's Boots

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    Am so annoyed - I don't have a season ticket to rip up and express my anger. <grr>
     
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  7. Simpology81

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    Fells like we aren't in a position to complain about Mackay or Rodgers anymore! Shame to see this as I thought that Dyche had got the team together nicely. It could well be that the team had peaked and that he wouldn't be able to better 11th place but I would have liked to see him given a chance to find out.

    Think that the team will need to come out winning which won't be easy against Palace or the owners will be turned on very quickly.

    Lets just hope that this time next year we aren't pointing to this and saying "this is where it started to go wrong"

    Lets now get behind the team and new manager (Zola) and hope we continue where we left off last season.
     
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  8. North North Watford

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    It's official when and only when it comes from the club. But I suppose that's just splitting hairs: one way or another Dyche has managed his last match for Watford. :(
     
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    Square peg in what is now a round hole. The job description of Watford FC manager has changed again and its more the Brenden Rodgers type they're looking for. Sean did a great job and has a great skills set and unfortunately will not get te chance to demonstrate what he can do with a different remit at Watford. I hope he's got a decent payoff but as he was on a one year rolling does anybody know if it had been rolled or is he high and dry without a payoff? That would be salt to the wound. I really hope he goes down a division and brings a team through a double promotion, woud be sad to face his team this season and he's not ready for the prem.
     
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  10. North North Watford

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    I just don't accept that he would have been a square peg.

    The one thing he clearly isn't very good at is the one thing he wouldn't have had much power over: buying individual players (he identified the correct holes, but the actual players we brought in were on the whole not up to the job).
     
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  11. wear_yellow

    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    Aberdeen - If it's a true 1 year rolling contract, it rolls every day. So Sean can expect 1 years salary as compensation plus whatever he can negotiate as compensation for any variable pay he may have expected.
     
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  12. oldnickhornet

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    Club 'refusing to comment',are they getting confused with bereavements when members of family have to be informed first? Dont suppose they could have jumped the gun,i.e Zola been offered the job but hasnt actually accepted yet.Would be ironic as the WO point out Zolas been out of management for TWO years,so assuming he's been available ...not someone exactly in demand .
    Anyone else old enough to remember when we had a club you felt you could have some trust in ?
    (Could all have been avoided if they'd listened to my sound advice when MM left and re-appointed Raymond Lewington)
     
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  13. aberdeenhornet

    aberdeenhornet Well-Known Member

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    I'm not convinced but he will not have the chance at watford either way. He is a bit less of the player developer and more the general organising and motivating the troops at least thats my take. I think what the Pozzos want is a coach who can attract and develop the flair players, not necessarily getting the max out of what we've got.
     
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  14. oldfrenchhorn

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    Whilst communicating with the vines this morning I had time to wonder just how the new owners will deal with the PR over this.

    When MM packed his bags and left, there was a lot of goodwill towards SD as he had been his own person and stayed to take on a job that most of us thought would not be an easy ride.

    Now we are faced with a popular man being replaced by someone that 75% of the people who voted in the WO poll did not want. I am sure that it is not animosity towards Zola but loyalty to Sean.

    So will we get a proper explanation of the owners reasoning for this move? Will they outline in an open manner what they hope to do over the coming months and years?

    From what my vines tell me, this will be the first big test of the Pozzos and what type of relationship they will want to build with the fans.
     
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  15. Roger68

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    Obviously this has nothing to do with Dyche's record at Watford, it is the new owners wanting to bring in a man they can communicate with/control, and who speaks their language.Zola is media friendly and will represent the club well on t.v. , but as a manager is actually less experienced than any of our last 4 managers--who had all been preparing for the role before they got the job, not out of work for two years , and even out of English football, like Zola. Still this may not matter so much since Zola's remit is very different to Dyche's. He had the remit to assemble a squad of experienced players (on a shoestring budget) sufficient to keep us in this division. He did this beyond expectation. Zola will not be buying or loaning players--this will be decided by others-- his job will be to develop young players from the three clubs for eventual lucrative sale (at the age of 23 or so.) The owners will not want the club relegated, so this is not a real danger, but I doubt they will be telling Zola to target promotion--or giving him the resources to do so.

    Dyche is better off elsewhere at this stage of his career, at a club where he can build his own team and drive it to some sort of success he can claim as his own achievement.
     
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  16. Roger68

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    OFH--- Exactly. The vines speak wisely .
     
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  17. vic-rijrode

    vic-rijrode Well-Known Member

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    We shouldn't feel too sorry for SD. By all accounts he will receive a year's salary (or should do based on my understanding of the contract he had with the club). He is leaving on a high after, by any measure, a successful first managerial season in difficult circumstances. His stock will be high and he should have no trouble getting a decent job. Maybe it will not be in the Championship initially, but there will be clubs in League 1 who will be able to pay him at least what he was on at Watford.

    So, thanks SD, your tenure at the club was very decent while it lasted and we wish you all the best in your future career (which will of course include a win in your very first match as manager against Watford.....).
     
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  18. Hornet-Fez

    Hornet-Fez Well-Known Member

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    "...And if you know your history... it's enought to make your heart...." :emoticon-0159-music

    Not a good start for the Pozzo's but this is in no way unexpected. Let's hope they pay more heed to our history as the ORIGINAL family and community club and what that actually means to us fans. They are obviously impressed with the academy set up which I think is their main 'raison d'être' along with the likelihood of us becoming a feeder club for Udinese. Hopefully they will aim for better things for us, for now there are no official statements so we can only speculate on what their thinking is. That said, they have done well for Udinese and Granada so as unpalatable as the first dose of medicine is we need to wait and see, give the team and new management our full support, and see how we go. If the wheels come off like the last time we had an Italian in charge then that is a different matter. The pressure is on already and the new manager/coaching staff have not yet officially been appointed. They will need to hit the ground running. There has to be a significant investment pitchside which the new owners will entrust to their new man otherwise there is no logic for sacking a manager who has proved himself better than the vast majority (myself included, though I was happy with his appointment) of people thought he would be.

    Gotta feel for Dychey. Done nothing wrong and hopefully the Pozzo's will not only pay him up fully but give him a proper 'bonus' too. Given what he achieved in his first season with the means at his disposal he should find himself another decent job in no time. Good luck Sean, and thanks.
     
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  19. HaslemereKev

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    Good luck to Sean, and hopefully he finds a decent club he can build his own team. Thank you for coming in at a hard time, and giving it a go where you could have taken the easy option and followed MM!

    It's the start of a new chapter now, and whether Zola is the right man or not, he still deserves the backing of the fans and club! We will see soon enough if the choice was a wise one!
     
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  20. Jsybarry

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    I agree with you on that one, but a week before that we've got Wycombe in the League Cup. If we were to lose at home to a League 2 club in his first match..
     
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