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We had United's attack and they fking blew

Discussion in 'England' started by Arsegun, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. Arsegun

    Arsegun Well-Known Member

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    Why was Ashley Young even playing this game? Shocking performance and capped it off with the penalty miss. Utter trash, but then why did Hodgson keep playing him after 3 earlier trash performances?

    Rooney was like watching him in the World Cup. The ball was just bouncing off him.

    Wellbeck did F/A and got subbed, but for Carroll?... FFS. Even Defoe would have been better.

    Why can't these muppets play for England like they do for United? Absolute sh!te.
     
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  2. Trypsin-1

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    Aye, cos Walcott was ****ing brilliant when he came on? I thought Welbeck played well too.
     
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  3. stopthepress

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    Young is too predictable, both for United and for England. Needs to have a trick in his locker.
     
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  4. Goldeneye175

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    Offered more than:

    Carroll (ran around foulling every Italian, chested balls down and then promptly gave them away, gave away free kicks like candy to kids)

    Young (utter ****e performance, seriously Oxlade-Chamberlain would have offered more threat, shocking penalty, when will england players learn not to hit power shots just hit the ****ing ball at the goal!!! It looked like he was aiming for the International Space Station with that one...)

    Henderson (don't get me started...how bad our depth is that he is called upon as a sub...mind boggling)

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    Joe Hart should have taken Penalty No.3, I really feel sorry for Ashley Cole, because of that idiot Young, he is under the nation's pressure to score, and I think that Hart would have been the better candidate in that situation.
     
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  5. Schumacher

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    Yep all Young's fault. All blame the Man Utd players. Nothing to do with having a average center midfield who could not keep the ball. The reason Young, Welbeck and Rooney play better for Man Utd is because we can actualy keep the ****ing ball. Twat.
     
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  6. Goldeneye175

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    Why blame the CM?

    After all, if you knew anything of football, you would understand that those AMs and FWs should do something with the ball, not just gift it straight to the Italians again, thereby exhausting Parker and Gerrard, who had to work their socks off because useless players like Young, Milner, Carroll couldn't keep the ****ing ball when given it!
     
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  7. Arsegun

    Arsegun Well-Known Member

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    How could Walcott do anything with those passes from Parker? He was given half an hour in an England team that couldn't keep the ball. Even then Walcott looked dangerous and almost created a good chance for us. He should have shot instead of trying to find Carroll though. It's more than Young did in the entire fking game.

    Fact is, the ****test players on the pitch were Young and Rooney. As they're supposed to be United's best players, I think we can blame those c*nts for not showing up..
     
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  8. Psycho2k

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    Young was ****, I totally agree there, but Rooney wasn't that bad considering he hadn't played any competitive football for a while, the front men just had poor service the entire tournament, often having to chase down hopeful long balls before retreating to the midfield to help defend again. A few of the players were **** to be fair, Milner was a waste of an England shirt, Henderson just runs around in circles a lot, Johnson goes too far forward to early, Terry is good at throwing his body in front of the ball but is useless with any ball in behind and Carroll couldn't even hit a simple 10 yard pass tonight, and he didn't exactly dominate in the air neither, he even lost a header to Pirlo! Honestly, England were lucky to even make it out of the group stage and going out against Italy on penalties is probably better than getting humiliated against Germany.
     
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  9. Style

    Style 'where is the love'

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    Our problem has been obvious since the first game agaisnt france, we can't keep the ****ing ball.
     
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  10. Arsegun

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    I'm not sure about the Milner criticism. Throughout the tournament he got into good positions and put in some good crosses. Even though he's deployed in a more defensive capacity than Young, he still got into more threatening positions. Good on him for covering the ground he did; he worked harder than most out there and deserves more than the criticism he's getting. I think the criticism is more of him symbolising Hodgson's defensive minded-ness.

    I don't see rust as an excuse for Rooney. He's been training... it's not like he was injured, it was a suspension. Besides, he had the Ukraine match. The things he was doing wrong were just things a bad footballer would do, like being unable to control the ball. That's supposed to be natural talent, not something you lose because of a 2 game suspension. He was the same at the World Cup. It's liike he turns into a paraplegic for the big tournaments. **** him.
     
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  11. sparx1

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    I think you would upset many paraplegics by comparing them with rooney, they are better than that. Aand as for the passing the England blind team would getter a better pass completion tehn this bunch of rooneys !!

    Joe Hart a shrews legend and future world one !!!!!
     
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  12. alwaysright

    alwaysright @ Very Angry Camel

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    Well he's not bad at diving - not sure what that has to do with football - bodes well for the Olympics

    Didn't see much evidence of that last night. All I saw was Pirlo...need I say more ( twat )
    [video=youtube;ROWlsw_om1E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROWlsw_om1E&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

    I agree with you - don't blame the CM - the rest of them were equally as poor

    I couldn't have put it better


    hope you don't mind my edit

    I think you're being very unkind - don't you realise that the England team is full of 'disabled' players -mentally bereft of a footballing brain.
     
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  13. HRH Custard VC

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    Remember it was UTD players that got England to the quarters.
    Chavski Cole was the one to blame for missing his penalty.
     
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  14. hedgeworth

    hedgeworth Active Member
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    The bulk of the squad played crap the whole competition.

    Hart, Lescott, Terry, Parker and Cole are about the only players who showed any consistency, and two of these players are ones we should be looking to replace due to age now.

    I foresee England dropping down the Fifa rankings quite a bit over the next few years as this is the worst squad of players i have seen in my lifetime and I am almost 40.

    All this crap about the United players, the Chelsea players, who gives a toss. These players are no where near as good as their reputation or salaries suggest, and the major reason why is because of the clubs like United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City who have filled their squads with foreign players not giving the young English talent any room to grow.

    I think the stats showed us with 32% passing accuracy which is disgraceful for any team in any game. I feel sorry for Roy having inherited this group of errrm footballers.
     
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  15. Goldeneye175

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    OMG how delusional you are!

    If Young had done his job and scored the 3rd penalty, the outcome of Cole's penalty might have been different, as it was it was saved, which is always better than hitting the bar (Note: hitting the ball as hard as possible is not a recommended tactic as it has a high chance of missing!)

    As it was Young was a complete failure last night, did nothing good and everything wrong. Hope I never see him in an England shirt again.
     
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  16. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    The biggest flops of the tournament were definitely the United players, and Carroll(if anyone rated him going into the Euros).

    I'm not going to pretend Parker had a good tournament but in his defence, Gerrard was taking up his position too often leaving him as the more offensive of the two in several games, which is not where his strengths lie.

    Ultimately it comes down to how you apportion the blame between players and manager. Personally I think Hodgson set them up poorly all tournament, which was a bigger factor than any individual player not performing to a high standard and in most cases the poor performance was in part a result of the tactics. Sending the whole midfield scrambling into our own 18 yard box everytime the opposition get the ball in our half, leaving Rooney or Welbeck to do close down Italian players isn't how either is used to playing and doesn't benefit them, although that's not to say that it was Hodgson's fault Rooney kept missing and giving the ball away.
     
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  17. TheJudeanPeoplesFront

    TheJudeanPeoplesFront Well-Known Member

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    Rooney was the worst player for me last night. Young had a couple of runs and tracked back hard. Rooney had to keep Pirlo quiet or else be an attacking force, and sitting out two competitive matches doesn't mean he should be excused for doing neither. His first touch was atrocious, his dribbling laborious and his passing truly woeful (but that goes for all). He had the potential to be "world class" six years ago, now he's fulfilling glorified average. Certainly should not be a first pick

    United are what they are (and most people agree this is the worst Man Utd squad for years, and that Sir Alex is just ridiculously unbelievable as a manager) because of the foreign players, and it's these players who compliment Young's one-dimensional play and allow Rooney a few tap-ins. England, largely, don't have technically good enough squad players to break into their own premier league sides.

    Overall, we did better than I expected, so I'm happy.
     
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  18. Bzzz

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    If we keep playing only big names we will continue to be an over-rated side who won't acheive anything.
     
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  19. Archers Road

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    Holland had Arsenal's attack. Remind me how that worked out?
     
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  20. HRH Custard VC

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    Really, If Cole (just one of many) had attacked more maybe Young could do what he is suppose to do, cross the ball into the strikers.

    Also Cole's miss lost us the game, end of.
     
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