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ExHuns Exodus

Discussion in 'Celtic' started by RebelBhoy, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. eric cartman

    eric cartman Well-Known Member

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    Not my area of expertise so not sure. The 14 days was just something I picked up. I looked on google and it appears the 14 days is what Duff and phelps had to tell the players before the takeover was complete i.e give them 14 days warning. Something the PFA says they never done.
     
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  2. EspaniaCelt

    EspaniaCelt Well-Known Member

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    It just gets funnier by the day. If this is a fine upstanding example of how the 'private sector' bigwigs do things in business they're obviously very competent. <whistle>
     
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  3. eric cartman

    eric cartman Well-Known Member

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    It looks like they hoped they could transfer the players over without telling them. There is going to be the issue though of any player that rejects could be seen to resign. It will get messy and UEFA will have to step in to clear it up.

    I wouldn't say duff and phelps have done anything that any other administrator wouldn't have done tbh. The club was always going to be liquidated. Other administrators might have decided to just liquidate them mid season but duff and phelps gave them at least a chance of getting back into the SPL by finishing the season. They do however have serious allegations to answer though with the takeover. In my opinion this was all planned from day one and it very much looks like fraud.
     
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  4. EspaniaCelt

    EspaniaCelt Well-Known Member

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    Yea but even trying to transfer the players over without telling them is an absolute disgrace and surely unlawful. Not sure if I follow you but the two statements in bold would seem to contradict each other. I would have thought (and hope) that most Administrators act within the law whereas if a fraud has been committed by Duff and Phelps they are surely (and hopefully) not doing what any other Administrator would have done?
     
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  5. eric cartman

    eric cartman Well-Known Member

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    Basically they shouldn't be there, but nothing they have done since taking the role seems dodgy tbh.

    It becomes a question of hats. The two administrators didn't work for duff and phelps when they done the takeover. They worked for merchant corporate recovery who were then bought by duff and phelps.(You would think they should know about TUPE then). They argue its all right for duff and phelps to be there as duff and phelps had nothing to do with the takeover.

    It seems to me as more than a coincidence that duff and phelps took MCR over after this deal. So too me it looks like it was planned from day one.
     
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  6. EspaniaCelt

    EspaniaCelt Well-Known Member

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    :emoticon-0148-yes: Ah, gotcha now but maybe not explaining the situation re the players contracts to them will be seen as dodgy?
     
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  7. eric cartman

    eric cartman Well-Known Member

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    Not dodgy just means green will be wrong and the players can walk as they weren't given proper notice. I think they know the players are entitled to leave and are just trying to blackmail them into transferring over.
     
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  8. EspaniaCelt

    EspaniaCelt Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, that's what I mean by 'dodgy' - if they've got it wrong the players have a case and as you say may be entitled to leave ... as may be the case anyway if the players union have got it right.
     
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  9. Go Go Yellowscreen

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    Naismith and Whittaker have confirmed that they do not want their contracts transferred across to a NewCo.

    I reckon the dam will burst now.
     
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  10. Super hooper

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    The administrators adopted a very different approach to all other football club administrators. When any other club goes into
    administrations costs are cut immediately and drastically. This did not happen at Rangers and the more I read and watching the
    BBC programme it seems to me there was no good reason for Administrators to act in the manner they have.
     
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  11. AP: Password Mong

    AP: Password Mong Well-Known Member

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    Just read Naismith's statement.

    "I am extremely proud of the actions we took but I am disappointed and angry that Rangers Football Club no longer exists in its original form."

    Surely not?
     
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  12. RebelBhoy

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    My statement was more appeasing than that
     
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  13. eric cartman

    eric cartman Well-Known Member

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    Honestly would expect every player to leave. They are likely heading for liquidation as they don't have any money to buy a squad and fans are refusing to buy season tickets.

    They're finally seeing what the realities of liquidation means and not this 'dump the debt and carry on as usual they all believed.'
     
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  14. Tina_old

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    Wee Naisy sticking it right up them on departure. Quite right too. that fat pie munching **** McCoist has the shortest memory ever re his statement the other day.

    Glad the rancid club died. Couldn't have happened to a nicer mob.

    <peacedove>
     
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  15. eric cartman

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    Would expect Mccoist to be next to go. There club is finished and should take a year out to rebuild.
     
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  16. Tina_old

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    That ****'s got a brass neck to equal Murray and Whyte. Hope he chokes on his next sausage roll.
     
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  17. eric cartman

    eric cartman Well-Known Member

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    He's certainly made a rod for his own back with his stupid statements. Wonder how he'll get out of this one the sleakit git.
     
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  18. eric cartman

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    Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker have turned down the transfer of their contracts to a newco Rangers and have become free agents.

    In statements issued through their lawyers, the players said they have informed Sevco 5088, the company set up by Charles Green to form a new Rangers FC, that they now consider themselves to be unemployed.

    Simon Catto, the solicitor dealing with the players&#8217; contracts, said: &#8220;Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker are formally intimating their objection to becoming employed by the transferee In accordance with Regulations 4(7) and 4(9) of the TUPE Regulations.

    &#8220;Accordingly, Steven Naismith and Steven Whittaker will not be attending for training or any other meeting next week and consider themselves to be under no contractual obligations to any party. They consider they are not employed by any party and are free to consider any employment options they wish.&#8221;

    Naismith, 25, who joined Rangers from Kilmarnock in 2007, said he made the &#8220;difficult decision&#8221; after talking with his family. The Scotland international said he took a 75% pay cut at the Ibrox club in the hope it would get out of administration through a CVA.

    He said: &#8220;Both Steven and I and our agent fought hard with administrators during negotiations to insert clauses that offered protection to staff and players at the club. I am extremely proud of the actions we took but I am disappointed and angry that Rangers Football Club no longer exists in its original form.

    &#8220;I would like to take this opportunity to thank Walter Smith, Ally McCoist, Kenny McDowall Ian Durrant, Jim Stewart and the rest of the backroom and medical staff and everyone that works at Ibrox and Murray Park for their support during my time at the club.

    &#8220;Finally I would like to thank the fans for all their backing. Everyone knows I am a life-long Rangers supporter and so I share in the disappointment and anger of what has happened to the great Rangers Football Club."

    Former Hibernian player Whittaker said he believed he had made the right decision after a long time thinking through his options.

    The 28-year-old Scotland player said: &#8220;I will always have a great deal of affection for the supporters who have shown me great respect throughout my time at Ibrox, I will always be grateful for the support they have given me as a Rangers player.

    &#8220;Whatever form the new club takes, I wish everyone connected with it the very best for the future.&#8221;
     
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  19. RebelBhoy

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    [video=youtube;GCJ_3HviLP0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCJ_3HviLP0&feature=fvwrel[/video]

    <laugh>

    Stupid ****s learnt the wrong song

    [video=youtube;vy6wkgjqeo0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy6wkgjqeo0[/video]

    <doh>

    EXODUS.......YOU ARE NOT DA PEOPLE
     
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  20. eric cartman

    eric cartman Well-Known Member

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    Will be interesting what the SFA say about this. If rangers are a new club then the players registration is with the old club and they can refuse to transfer over. As the PFA indicate, the registrations are with the old club and they can leave for nothing.
     
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