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Which is the better horse........

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    Deleted 1 Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Frankel or Arkle?

    Sorry Ron - it had to be asked but do feel free to remove it <laugh>
     
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  2. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    F 'n Arkle.
     
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    Ron, Jun 20, 2012
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    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    Do not insult me by even mentioning Frankel in the same breath as Arkle.*

    Frankel needs to win over 3 miles, and give all his opposition 2 stone and a beating, before we can even consider mentioning him alongside Arkle :biggrin:*
     
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    King Shergar, Jun 21, 2012
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I think that was wasted
     
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    Ron, Jun 21, 2012
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    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    Arkle was no Kauto Star, and neither were in Denman's class.
     
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    Cyclonic, Jun 21, 2012

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    Can Frankel jump though? Big question mark for me.
     
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    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    Wasn't it 2 and a half stone ?
     
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    TC (Lovely Geezer), Jun 21, 2012
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    The real question though is whether he is better than Simonsig.

    <laugh>
     
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    Zenyatta, Jun 21, 2012
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    Frankels rated 138 - wouldn't even make it into a decent Cheltenham handicap...
     
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    I can't believe they missed the opportunity but he would surely have had a massive chance in the Fred Winter this year?
     
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    I would have to say that if the two met off of level over a mile then I would be inclined to say that Frankel would be a worthy favourite however if the two met over 3 miles with 20 obstacles between them and the finish then I would edge over to Arkle's side. I know, I know I've put my neck on the line but that's the kind of guy I am.


    That's why the call me G.G.W.
     
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    Reebok YTS Mod Staff Member

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    Both would struggle in.world war 1

    War Horse for me <OK>

    That's why they call me ...... old :)
     
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    Simonsig is better than Frankel - and if you asked Nicky Henderson he would tell you that himself.
     
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    Simonsig > Frankel > Arkle. Obviously.
     
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    Arkle would be about 50 years old now wouldn't he? Surely that would mean another couple of stone in an all-age WFA conditions race?
     
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  17. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If Frankel was in the Champion Hurdle as a 4yo I think his Timeform Rating would be 147 + 28 + 7 (wfa) = 182.
     
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    Ron, Jun 21, 2012
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    I don't think Prince Khaled can justify those stud fees until he's won the Gold Cup and Grand national in the same year.
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    By comparison Night Nurse's rating would be 182 + 4 = 186.

    So Night Nurse is better than Frankel
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    Ron, Jun 21, 2012
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    And Kauto Star is miles better than Frankel . . .
     
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