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Spot the Haggas

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Ron, Jun 14, 2012.

  1. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Following on from my comment on the W J Haggas interview yesterday in which, when pressed for a single best bet of his at Royal Ascot, he commented "We'll have one at the away races during Royal Ascot and that'll be the nap", I am trying to identify any runner trained by W J Haggas that is running during Royal Ascot but not at the Royal meeting.

    So far I have identified the following single entry but engagements beyond Tuesday aren't yet published:

    Tuesday 19th 3.25 Thirsk AL WAJBA

    The implication is that he has only 1 runner engaged outside Royal Ascot, but of course he could have a few engaged and his nap might not be the one engaged on Tuesday.

    Updated list:

    Tuesday 19th
    3.25 Thirsk - Al Wajba
    8:30 Brighton - Al Jabreiah

    Wednesday
    6.40 Kempton - Mama Quilla and Khazeena
    8.20 Ripon - Sholaan
     
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  2. Benvenuto Cellini

    Benvenuto Cellini 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    would have been nice if they just asked him what the horse was, we will never know now because he will have numerous runners at other meetings during royal ascot
     
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  3. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Maybe, but I can only see one entered on Tuesday. Maybe worth watching jockey booking(s) and market moves.
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Found these for Wednesday:

    6.40 Lingfield - Mama Quilla and Khazeena

    8.20 Ripon - Sholaan

    and another Tuesday:
    8:30 Brighton - Al Jabreiah

    List updated.

    See what you mean Boris. Maybe the overnight decs will see some withdrawn
     
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  5. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    Haggas is a very shrewd man and he may have been just using that to avert the question as he would not want to give away a possible horse that had been plotted towards a big Ascot handicap but quite rightly also not wanting to put people away on a less fancied runner.

    It will be easy to spot Ron as he's never go unbacked so just watch the movers from Tuesday onwards.
     
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  6. Sir Barney Chuckles

    Sir Barney Chuckles Who Dares Wins

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    From those listed it may possibly be the debutant, Mama Quilla (6.40 Kempton, Wednesday) that old boy Haggas is referring to.

    Mama Quilla is a half-sister to the multiple Group 1 winner Whipper (who is now a decent stallion) and if displaying even a modicum of his ability could be a good ‘un herself.

    Also a couple of her half-brothers went through the sale ring for the whopping sums of $1.4 million and £1 million so there is obvious talent (or perceived talent at any rate) in her genes.
     
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  7. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Interesting Barney. Has great AW pedigree by the looks of it; her sire is the sire of Curlin. I see the dam is by Sadlers Wells out of a Mill Reef mare. Tasty.
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    By Date

    21Jun12 LEICESTER 8:40 Aniseed
    21Jun12 LEICESTER 8:40 Khazeena
    21Jun12 WARWICK 2:55 Aarti
    21Jun12 WARWICK 3:30 Columella
    22Jun12 GOODWOOD 6:50 Momalorka
    22Jun12 GOODWOOD 7:20 Hummingbird
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 6:25 District Attorney
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 7:30 Al Jabreiah
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40 Al Qatari
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40 Aniseed
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40 Stencive
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40 Sun Central
    23Jun12 AYR 2:55 Fast Or Free
    23Jun12 AYR 3:30 Figaro
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 6:50 Columella
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 6:50 Sky Garden
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 7:50 Al Wajba
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 8:20 Pearl War
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 8:50 Jawhar
    23Jun12 LINGFIELD 6:35 Spithead
    23Jun12 LINGFIELD 7:35 Asian Trader
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:05 Afaal
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:05 Al Wajba
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:05 Shena's Dream
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:40 Expose
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 3:10 Al Wajba
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 3:10 Tawaasul
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 3:40 Heeraat
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 4:15 Fehaydi
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 4:50 Pearl War


    By horse:

    Aarti
    21Jun12 WARWICK 2:55
    Afaal
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:05
    Al Jabreiah
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 7:30
    Al Qatari
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40
    Al Wajba
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 7:50
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:05
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 3:10
    Aniseed
    21Jun12 LEICESTER 8:40
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40
    Asian Trader
    23Jun12 LINGFIELD 7:35
    Columella
    21Jun12 WARWICK 3:30
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 6:50
    District Attorney
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 6:25
    Expose
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:40
    Fast Or Free
    23Jun12 AYR 2:55
    Fehaydi
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 4:15
    Figaro
    23Jun12 AYR 3:30
    Heeraat
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 3:40
    Hummingbird
    22Jun12 GOODWOOD 7:20
    Jawhar
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 8:50
    Khazeena
    21Jun12 LEICESTER 8:40
    Momalorka
    22Jun12 GOODWOOD 6:50
    Pearl War
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 8:20
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 4:50
    Shena's Dream
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:05
    Sky Garden
    23Jun12 HAYDOCK 6:50
    Spithead
    23Jun12 LINGFIELD 6:35
    Stencive
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40
    Sun Central
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40
    Tawaasul
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 3:10
     
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    OddDog Mild mannered janitor Staff Member

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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    FFS Oddy. Can't you see I'm having fun?
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    Found it!! But which one is it?
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Done that Oddy. I said "Thank you for your tip on TV bla bla
    Listed them all

    and asked "Which one is it please"
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  13. Ron

    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Bollocks
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    2 tomorrow

    Aarti WARWICK 2:55 L
    Columella WARWICK 3:30 W 7/4
     
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    Ron Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    For interest - non runners removed

    21Jun12 WARWICK 2:55 Aarti L
    21Jun12 WARWICK 3:30 Columella W 7/4

    22Jun12 GOODWOOD 6:50 Momalorka W 9/2
    22Jun12 NEWMARKET 8:40 Al Qatari L

    23Jun12 LINGFIELD 6:35 Spithead
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:05 Afaal
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 2:40 Expose
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 3:40 Heeraat
    23Jun12 NEWMARKET 5:25 Pearl War
     
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