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Taylor part of TeamGB

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  1. valleyswan

    valleyswan Active Member

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    Good for Taylor !!! ... Bad for Mabon I suppose .... Good luck to Taylor though , should be a positive experience
     
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    MabonJack New Member

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    Valley/breezy

    I have to pop out for an hour or so i will converse with you both later<laugh>
     
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    Surely a good luck should go to Allen too as the article says he has been named Also. I think they will both get into the final 18
     
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  5. valleyswan

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    Look forward to it mabonJack
     
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    Libertyswan Well-Known Member

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    Good luck to both of them, still tickets available for the GB mens games at the Mill Stad for anyone interested.
     
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  7. Cherry Jack

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    Congratulations Taylor and Allen...but if you do get picked, please don't get injured!
     
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  8. ShanghaiSwan

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    Mabon - so do you really think Taylor should be banned? For how long? Explanation please. I think if the Welsh FA banned him then most on here would claim there were anti-Swansea, but here you are (a Swans fan) asking that one of our players should be banned. I don't get it.
     
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    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    Mabon is entitled to his view that Team GB is bad for Welsh football and threatens our independence as a footballing nation. I suspect it's to do with the fact that if asked he'd probably prefer Wales not to be part of the UK at all. Maybe I'm wrong.

    I say there's no evidence to support this view and one good pointer is that if the grey suits at the FAW are against it then it must be a good thing. Congrats to all the Welsh boys involved. You must be thrilled. <applause>
     
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  10. MabonJack

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    Personally i dont want to see any Welsh players involved in team gb, i am fully supportive of the 3 celtic nations's stance on the team gb issue, they are well aware of the risks posed by a british football team at the olympics, and so are the english but due to government pressure they have towed the line. Ask yourself this why have FIFA not given the celtic nations the written gaurantees they want, answer is they can not give them because if a country decides down the line that they want a vote on the status of the british home nations, those gaurantees will stop a vote taking place, Any Welsh player who sees fit to play for team gb will be putting our national team at risk for their own personal ends, and i would fully support them being excluded from the welsh set up, for a few weeks of waving the union jack its too big a risk.

    And yes knackered i would love our nation not to be a part of the uk, but that is another thread.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7917624.stm
     
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  11. valleyswan

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    The thing is Mabon is that FAW has stated that no sanctions will be given to the players involved. And I can see why because it would mean that players will them.

    And separation of the UK whilst political would be madness, and I am completely against it 100% for so many reasons I don't think a forum about football is the appropriate place to discuss it.
     
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    Firstly i am not discussing seperation on here, secondly any Welsh player who puts team gb before the red shirt of Wales should hang their heads in shame
     
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    Perhaps they just want to win something! In any case, I don't think the are putting Team GB before Wales. They are playing for both. Just like playing for Swansea and Wales. I doubt very much that FIFA will ever insist on a UK team instead of the separate teams we now have. But would it be so bad if it did happen? We're British as well as Welsh.
     
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  14. valleyswan

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    I can't see that at all, these players are proud to play for both, and I can't see where one interferes with the other at all. It's going to happen whether you like it or not though, and I am fully for it.

    Now that we got swans players playing in the Olympics that you are fundamentally against, what is your position of them playing for the swans ? They are a welsh team playing in england for the most part, are you against that as well ? If not your argument is inconsistent as separation of the UK would mean the football clubs playing in other parts of the former UK would be impossible.
     
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    FIFA ca not be trusted over this, FIFA will think nothing of merging the home nations if the African and Concacaf nations have their way that is exactly what will happen, it would be disastrous if they did, considering the players have been warned about the consequences of playing as a combined tean gb, they are putting team gb before the welsh team, there is no recognised british national team, we are 4 seperate footballing nations, if the olympics was being held abroad there would not be a team being entered , the last time was 1972 so why enter one now, i gaurantee you there will not be 1 in the next olympics, and the english will then say we cant enter a team because we dont play as team gb, and we must protect our independance as a footballing nation, as a side note none of our players with the exception of bale and ramsey would be considered if the english were not in the euro's

    Personally i consider myself Welsh and Welsh only,
     
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    Valley this is about our national team , and the risk to its existence in the future, what has the swans got to do with it, under european law a player is entitled to be employed by any club within the european union, the swans play in the english league with the blessing of the FAW, what is your point
     
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  17. valleyswan

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    My point is that you want everything it seems, you don't want our welsh players in the Olympics, if they play you want them banned from playing internationals. You don't mind welsh clubs in the league system, but you want separation from the UK.

    You appear to only want things that comply with your vision, now I'm not saying that is bad as everyone has an opinion and it would be a boring world if everyone agreed. But it's not consistent in my opinion.
     
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    I want to protect our national side, which i have consistantly said on this forum, and any welsh player who see's fit to put that at risk for their own ends should look at themselves and question their own loyalty to the country of their birth, Team gb is not their national team Wales is, no player has the right to deny our future Welsh international players by putting our national team at risk, personally i think they are selfish bastards only thinking of themselves, valley if england were not in the euro's neither taylor or Allen would be getting anywhere near that team, so i would say that is a view i have consistantly held regarding this issue, the fact the swans play in the english league would change if the home nations were merged, swansea would become a non entity within the british game if that happened, the english fa would take control of british football.


    I dont know if you have noticed but we are seperating slowly but surely as the years are passing. GB/UK is an outdated concept, the empire went a long time ago
     
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  19. valleyswan

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    I don't think they are selfish bastards MabonJack and am quite shocked that you think this. Them playing in a competition not governed by FIFA is not going to effect our standing down the line. And I will be equally as blunt, it's got bugger all to do with the FAW if these players actually take part in the Olympics, the FAW are just a utter waste of space run by people who are more concerned about themselves than anything else, selfish bastards would be understatement !
     
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    An individual's human rights can't be overlooked here .
     
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