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Painkillers use by footballers

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  1. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Fifa's chief medical officer has said the "abuse" of painkillers is putting the careers and long-term health of international footballers in jeopardy.

    Dr Jiri Dvorak found that almost 40% of players at the 2010 World Cup were taking pain medication prior to every game. He told the BBC that younger players are imitating the seniors and taking painkillers far too frequently.


    Is this another sign of the pressure we are putting people under to perform. I know we play a lot of money and expect our stars to entertain us but playing through the pain barrier is surely just storing up huge problems for them in later years?
     
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  2. Itchen North Matt

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    I presume that refers to injections. Do kids really use them? I'd have thought that at youth level nothing was worth winning so much as to feel the need to use them. I hope academies don't practice/encourage this?
     
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  3. pass the football

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    I think they're referring to young first-team players, not youth players.

    Can understand why older players perhaps carrying minor but painful injuries use them, but if players are using them as a prophylactic measure, not to combat pain they already have, then that is worrying. It could be argued that any use of painkillers is cheating, in that it gives you an unnatural advantage.
     
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  4. - Doing The Lambert Walk

    - Doing The Lambert Walk Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Lallana say he uses them??




    Update: He said he can't leave the house without anti-inflammatory pills.


    Mentioned at 0:20 in this video:

    [video=youtube;p5T-JoQ5Q0w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5T-JoQ5Q0w[/video]
     
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  5. Itchen North Matt

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    I wouldn't call it cheating, but I don't like the thought of players using injections to run on injuries. If something hurts to the extent that someone can't play football, there's usually a pretty good reason for it and running on it can make it worse. Can understand them being used to aid recovery off the pitch though.
     
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  6. fran-MLs little camera

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    Adkins said that footballers always lie about injuries because they want to play, but he claims to be wise to that. Pain is nature's way of warning you about an injury, so it is dangerous to ignore it.
     
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  7. Le God

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    I compete in a sport at international level and take them before every training session and competition. I take them 3 times a day every day and have for years. IMO there is nothing wrong with this at all and it has a positive effect not a negative one (as long as you don't take it more than recommended amount). A lot of high level sportsmen do this across all sports
     
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  8. Big_Si

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    Someone posted an article about an old Saints player on here a while back and in it the guy said he used to have cortisone injections all the time. It cost him the chance to have children as it made him infertile.

    It was jim steele.
     
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  9. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    LE God that's your choice. The fear is that youngsters will be pressurised into things without knowing the full risks.
     
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  10. Itchen North Matt

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    Do you mean pills you can get over the counter? Those won't get you running on an injury. You'd need a targeted injection to do that, which can cause lasting damage. Anti-inflammatories are fine things and are indeed useful, although they can give you a dodgy stomach.
     
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  11. saintlyhero

    saintlyhero Well-Known Member

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    I believe David Armstrong and Ron Davies have both had issues.

    Le God, can I ask what sport you play?
     
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  12. Le God

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    Yeh injections is very stupid. Anyone playing on injections is a fool. I just meant ibuprofen and paracetemol type pills. If you are actually injured with a tear or strain you have to take time off or things will get worse very quickly. I just meant over the counter stuff helps reduce stiffness , loosens you up and enhances recovery

    I was under the impression the 40% were on over the counter painkillers no? I believe injections are used very rarely?
     
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  13. Schad

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    It's definitely a problem in sport, period. Anti-inflammatory use is near-universal in the NBA, for example, which is doubly worrying in that sport because overuse has been linked with kidney disorders in individuals of African descent. No drug, no matter how ubiquitous or benign, should by popped like Tic-Tacs.
     
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  14. The Strawberry Syrup Man

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    A fink dey take them cos they r in pein and no1 desurvs to be in pein no mata wot job you do.
     
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  15. Itchen North Matt

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    I try to avoid them if I can help it being someone who has had less than pleasant experiences of stronger stuff. I don't play competitive sport though. Did you get advice from a doctor before taking them regularly?
     
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  16. fran-MLs little camera

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    I used to work in the drug industry and all drugs have side effects, even if minor. The acceptable level of side effects varies with drug purpose...for instance, severe side effects are tolerated for anticarcinogenic drugs. The length of drug testing depends on the period of time that the drugs are expected to be taken for. Paracetamol is a particularly nasty insidious drug with a fatal dose extremely close to the efficacious dose. It is considered okay for someone with arthritis as it is better tolerated than aspirin in some cases. I suspect that drugs handed out like smarties now will be shown to be dangerous in the future. One day I will die of something natural, but I never want to die because of something I've done to myself.
     
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  17. Itchen North Matt

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    If you believe the Daily Mail, most aspects of everyday living will do that. To be honest, life is too short.
     
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  18. fran-MLs little camera

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    I may have explained myself badly. I was only talking about taking drugs prophylactically. I certainly don't believe all that tosh about foods in the media..according to them you should never eat anything. Commonsense is necessary. The problem is that people seem unwilling to accept that we will all die of something, so the best thing is to enjoy the life you have.
     
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    Don't you think though enjoying life to a footballer is playing.

    You can see if taking an anti inflammatory pill will ease the pain and allow them to get 90 mins the
    majority of players will choose to do so. I think this was what Ad's was referring to in his interview.

    Can't say I agree with it but given their opportunities in such a short time frame I can see their choice.
     
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