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Maybe signing Hazard and Hulk is good on the RDM Front

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by District Line, May 29, 2012.

  1. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member
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    It's because they can't compete.

    We all want the best for our clubs and we all want to win things.

    I won't be a hypocrite I used to bemoan the fact United could pay £30m for a defender and Arsenal could have a benchwarmer on £40k a week, but now the roles are reversed I'm quite content.

    People don't like it when things aren't going their way. I can understand the Arsenal outcry for FFP & frustration as to be fair they are a genuinely big club and would have probably won a lot more if RA hadn't of arrived on the scene but Spurs are a midtable club who do well in the cups once or twice a decade. FFP rules would leave them screwed as they aren't a big club and don't generate enough revenue.
     
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  2. District Line

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    Ferdinand went for £30m and was on something like 80k a week and that was 10 years ago. Juve, Real Madrid and Barca players had already smashed the 100 Euro a week barrier by then.

    These people have been brainwashed by the media who have convinced them Chelsea and City distorted the market but that isn't true, all the evidence suggests its the likes of Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool, Everton and in this era United who have distorted the market but we've all contributed.

    Nobody really took an interest in wages until it was reported Sheva was on 120k a week and Ashley Cole snubbed 50k a week at Arsenal
     
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  3. Coolhand83

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    Go back to reading your ****ty tabloids mate. This past season was amazing, particularly for a neutral. If anything it's made the EPL better than it was. Get your blinkers off and start thinking of some opinions of your own.
     
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  4. District Line

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    You are blighted by delusion and sheer bitterness and are spouting nonsense based on mere speculation and tabloid crap.

    United offered players the highest wages as did Liverpool and they both competed for major honours every season, that is no different to Chelsea and City now.

    You are just confirming what we all know in that Spurs fans are clueless about football
     
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    Which double?<whistle>
     
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    To be honest Chelsea wouldnt be distorting the market if teams like Spurs would take the real values oftheir players instead of hiking up values and forcing players to stay against their will - Modric was worth 22-25m lat year and we offered 28m - above his value but Spurs refused despite the player wanting to go, wanting to go because Spurs werent in CL, the pinnacle event that every player wants to play in and win (which we did, then again I dont have to tell the deluded Spurs fans that, their tears that flood London show that)
     
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    I've posted this on the transfer thread but it's relevant so:

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...-eye-Hulk-deal

    Also he's started following Mata and Hazard and a CFC chant fanpage on Twitter today. On Hulk's twitter feed "Thanks to all Chelsea fans, the beautiful messages of support! And I'm sorry for my english hahahah"
     
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  8. District Line

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    Exactly, people forget that as the seller they set the precedent for this kind of thing by selling Berbatov (who had one good season) for £30m and turning down £35m for Modric
     
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    Sorry mate but we won that double with 10 men every time that useless **** pulled on a shirt!
     
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    Of course I have to rely on speculation and tabloid "crap", as I don't know Roman Abramovich or Daniel Levy personally, nor am I a paid employee of any club. What else do posters to Internet forums base their information on? As with everyone else, I limit my views to stories that I find plausible. What do you do?
     
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    Wow, that has won the grand prize for arrogance. So clubs like Spurs should just sell their best players (who are under contract) every time a billionaire's plaything snaps their fingers. So in the end it will be you v Man City every year cause the rest of us know our place. What a twat you are!
     
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    If you're going to get personally abusive like that we might have to trim your wings young 'array.
    Now piss off you **** faced dick head.
     
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  13. District Line

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    Welcome to the real world you deluded baffoon.

    Did you think twice about poaching Bale off of Southampton? Or Modric off of his boyhood club Dinamo Zagreb? Or how about Lennon off his boyhood club Leeds when they were in the midst of financial crisis? Or how about Darren Bent off Charlton less than 6 weeks after they'd been relegated? Or Kyle Walker off his boyhood club Sheffield United? How do you think they felt when a supposed "bigger" club came in for their players you complete and utter hypocrite <doh>

    It's a dog eat dog world and just because you aren't top of the food chain you want to cry <wah>
     
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    This is what is wrong with this country. You openly admit to using the crap as your source of information yet you use it as your ammo like it's gospel just because there isn't a better source, and the stuff you do spout is selected information from said crap that you find plausible based on your own personal bias. That gives people of a differing opinion all the right in the world to shoot it down. A bit like atheists and religion, but that's another issue altogether... <whistle>
     
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    Chelsea to land Lille playmaker Eden Hazard for £32m• Belgian midfielder agrees five-year deal
    • Blues also in pursuit of £30m striker Hulk
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    guardian.co.uk, Monday 28 May 2012 17.00 EDT
    Lille's midfielder Eden Hazard has opted for Chelsea rather than either of the two Manchester clubs. Photograph: Denis Charlet/AFP/Getty Images
    Eden Hazard has announced that he is set to sign for Chelsea. The 21-year-old Lille playmaker will join the newly crowned European champions for £32m on a five&#8209;year deal worth £100,000 a week after tax. The Chelsea owner, Roman Abramovich, who does not have a permanent manager at the club, drove the purchase personally, in what is a stunning statement of intent.

    The fee and package for such a young player is eye-watering but Chelsea's coup is also reflected in their having seen off strong competition from the Premier League champions, Manchester City, and the runners-up Manchester United – who were, by some distance, England's most consistent clubs last season. Chelsea lagged 25 points behind the pair and Abramovich is determined that his club will mount a more sustained domestic challenge next season. In outmuscling the Manchester clubs for Hazard, he has demonstrated the clout and desire that marked the early period, in particular, of his nine-year Stamford Bridge stewardship.

    Abramovich wants to build on the success of winning the Champions League and FA Cup with a squad capable of playing the attractive football he craves. His other marque target is Hulk, the Porto and Brazil striker. Hulk has a €100m buy-out clause in his contract but he could more reasonably be expected to cost in the region of £30m. He can play as a right-sided attacker and, as such, would work alongside Fernando Torres in the Chelsea team rather than replace him.

    Chelsea have released three of the starting XI from the Champions League final victory against Bayern Munich – Didier Drogba, José Bosingwa and Salomon Kalou – and there is the wish at the club to rejuvenate the playing staff, even though the chairman, Bruce Buck, has stressed that "evolution" will be the watchword. Chelsea have added the young wingers Marko Marin from Werder Bremen and Kevin de Bruyne from Genk, each for £7m fees. De Bruyne was signed in January and allowed to remain at Genk for the remainder of the season. Chelsea will consider loaning him again next season, with Lille keen to take him.

    Hazard departs Lille having been convinced that Chelsea represents the best career move for him. He will play in the No10's role or off the left, dovetailing with Juan Mata. Joe Cole, the former Chelsea player who spent last season on loan at Lille, has emerged as one of the keys to the deal. Cole repeatedly sold the merits of Stamford Bridge to Hazard, much to the appreciation of the Chelsea hierarchy.

    "I've probably put about £5m on his transfer with the amount of things I've said about him," Cole said. "He's got everything. He'll maybe become one of the best players in the world."

    Hazard has just enjoyed his finest season, adding cutting edge which he was previously accused of lacking in the shape of 20 goals and 15 assists. He played as the No10 for Lille and he has taken up the position at international level under Belgium's new coach, Marc Wilmots. He will play against England at Wembley in the friendly on Saturday.

    Hazard's move had become something of a saga, with the player professing over the past year to have been attracted, at various times, by all of the top clubs in England, Spain and Italy. He had also promised to join some of them only not to do so. He said on Monday lunchtime, in a tweet in English, that "i made up my mind. see you later. thanks", leading to further speculation. But, after training with the Belgium squad, he finally confirmed in the evening that he was "signing for the champion's league winner". He must still undergo a medical.

    Petr Cech has signed a new four-year contract which will see him remain at the club until 2016. Thibaut Courtois, the reserve goalkeeper, is likely to stay on loan with Atletico Madrid.
     
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    And in none of those cases did we receive a cold shoulder from the selling club. Of course I don't believe all transfers should be banned, but when your club and City totally change the basis of "reasonable" salaries, then you are destroying the fabric of the game. One day, if UEFA don't step in, all the best players will be with you or City. What joy can you derive from winning in that scenario?

    You are happy because you are on the domineering side, I understand that, but if you think it through you must understand it is not in the long term interests of the game? There is nothing hypocritical in my stance, what you did to Modric has never been done by Spurs, and I would hate it if we did.
     
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    Newspaper crap, just ignore this <whistle>
     
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    It will severely limit a forum like this if we just ignore newspaper gossip. However I don't treat any of it as gospel, but it is still worth discussing. Of course it reflects my own bias, I am the one giving my opinion. Whose bias should I reflect, yours?
     
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    But we've experienced NOT being on the domineering side aswell. What did we do to Modric btw? Make a bid? How can you possibly blame him for wanting to leave to play Champions League football or blame us for being interested in a good player?
     
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    **** !!! I hate to admit this to "Rock Hudson"...........but true!
     
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