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Brendan Rodgers and the erosion of loyalty

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Scottswan, May 30, 2012.

  1. Scottswan

    Scottswan Active Member

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    Firstly, let me say I am absolutely gutted he's gone. Anyone who knows me on here, and was present the last few days, will have seen me waxing lyrical about how it makes no sense for him to go, and how I didn't think he will be going. Well, I honestly didn't see this coming and here's some reasons why.

    Brendan Rodgers was first given an opportunity at Watford, where he did well, before he secured a move back to his old stomping ground (Reading) which left a bitter taste in the Hornet's mouths. They'd given him an opportunity and how did he repay them? By jumping ship once he'd secured himself some exposure. What happened next? Reading's form was very poor and Rodgers god the sack.

    Fast forward a few years, and, after spending a little time out of the game and then being given a chance to re-establish himself as an up and coming manager, he repeats the trick. Now, if he'd always maintained we were a stepping stone, or had never intimated that he wanted to stay, that would be fine. That, however, is not the case. Brendan said, as recently as May the 18th, that "Going to Liverpool wouldn't be fair on the fans" - and to paraphrase a friend of mine - what has changed? Nothing that's what. After the Swans gave him an opportunity to prove himself, he excelled, showing that success can be had by playing attractive football and gaining promotion to the Premier Division, before an incredible season where we only finished slightly behind Liverpool where he now seems destined to end up. Now, if Rodgers was 10 years older I'd understand this move, but he has such a long time ahead of him I find this move selfish, greedy and egotistical. The Swans have given him everything he asked for and more - letting him oversee the plans for the new training ground and allowing him complete freedom to operate as he sees fit - and how does he repay them? By jumping ship because he believes he can turn Liverpool around. I'm not so sure.

    This move signifies to me that no matter what anyone says, no matter how much a supposed "scholar of the game" crows about integrity, honesty and passion, it takes a stronger man than Brendan Rodgers to be able to resist the temptation such a club must bring. All season, and since, we've heard how Buck wants to be here, how he's building for the future, and now it appears he views the Swans as a springboard onto bigger and better things. Well, good luck and good riddance. As with the players, if you don't want to be here, hopefully the door will catch you on the ass on the way out. Hard.

    I wish Rodgers no particular ill-will at Anfield, but I'm not wishing him any luck either. Kind wishes are reserved for those who deserve them and in my book, Brendan's achievements are now marred by the way he's conducted himself. I still respect him as a football manager (although I have my doubts as to whether he'll succeed at Liverpool) but I've lost all respect for him as a human being.

    Brendan Rodgers? Not the man I thought he was.

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  2. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    Scott that's a quality post, which I agree with 100%.
     
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  3. Taffvalerowdy

    Taffvalerowdy Well-Known Member

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    Brendan is loyal to Brendan.

    We now know how Watford's fans must have felt !
     
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  4. Scottswan

    Scottswan Active Member

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    I'll be honest reading it back I didn't have a go at Buck nearly as much as I wanted. I hope the Swans absolutely annihilate Liverpool next season. What price for Buck to get sacked after losing 8 games on the bounce - the last of which is Swansea away?

    We can't claim he "owes us" anything. As an example though, I did a 3rd summer in Ibiza despite not being paid well, and I worked my balls off all summer despite a load of problems which could have been avoided and which weren't my fault. I should, and most people probably would have, jumped ship, but I didn't, and you know why? Because they'd given me a chance 2 summers before and I thought the least I can do is give them one more year.

    Buck gets paid a ****LOAD more than I did last summer, and he couldn't even give the Swans one more year? The guy isn't even 40 - what a ****ing ego.
     
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  5. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to resist posting my rant until tomorrow, I'm going to sleep on it.
     
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  6. Rhodthesod

    Rhodthesod Well-Known Member

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    Good post
     
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  7. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    Good read scott, i agree there with some things but we all knew this day would come, once he had a sniff of premier league scent he was a changed man, it is dissapointing that people we regard as having a bit of integrity do the dirty on you but that was always likely to happen with this guy, he had form for it and the warning signs were there when he dived under cover when the spurs speculation came out.

    Im feeling pretty good about it all TBH a bit of venting on some threads and im feeling quite positive about the future now, **** rodgers at Liverpool, i couldnt give a toss about him now..im soo over himmm <laugh>
     
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  8. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    rubbish scott.... Brendan was true to his word right down to the letter.....he would only go if a big club came in for him and im sorry he has gone but that is exactly what he has done. nothing more nothing less....good for him his chance have come earlier than even he expected. He has absolutly nothing to oppologise for......it is jinks you should vent your anger towards with his lies and decite saying nothing was going on, he is the one with egg all over his face now. brendan can walk out of the liberty knowing he has done a fantastic job with his head held high to a new job with a bigger club and all that goes with it.....good luck to him and his quest to make liverpool great again and i would not bet against that in a million years...
     
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  9. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Dai you have our own agenda against Jenkins ( reared its ugly head again), you'll use any tool to belittle the man ,your personal feelings have no bearing on what imo was a very accurate summation of Rodgers by Scott ,to call it rubbish is disingenuous ,without Jenkins / Board where do you think we as a club would be , very selective memory I'm afraid.
    If you more than happy to see Liverpool become "great again "leads me to think you're more concerned with their future than ours
     
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  10. Scottswan

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    Dai, he said 3 weeks ago that it would be unfair on the fans. Surely saying that, then going, is more unfair? My post isn't rubbish Dai, it's my opinion. As soon as you get it through your head that if you disagree with something it's not automatically rubbish the sooner you'll stop being the laughing stock of the forum.

    You're back to your old Jenkins hate campaign? Liverpool approached the Swans last night and here's the statement in full;

    A statement from Swansea City chairman Huw Jenkins:

    How has Jenkins done badly here. You're a goon sometimes.
     
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  11. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    What a surprise. Let's blame Jenkins, the only one who has behaved impeccably throughout. What a ****ing moron you are. Jenkins had already given permission so as far as he was concerned there was nothing going on. Anyway, these are the noises that chairmen always make otherwise you end up like Dave Whelan.

    Can't blame Rodgers. Liverpool is a big gig. I think it's a mistake for both parties but only time will tell. When we're ripping up the Prem with Poyet he'll be a distant memory, even though an important part of our history.
     
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  12. campionijack

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    I think Rodgers has just destroyed his career. To be honest, I hope he has and I will laugh my head off when he gets sacked within the next 18 months.

    Rodgers by name, rogers by nature.

    As for Dai's comments, what a joke you are. A complete disgrace. Please feel free to join Rodgers at anfield and spare us your bile.
     
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  13. swans-m

    swans-m Well-Known Member

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    Sig deal in doubt, manageress, and a massive chance he may come in for the likes of Williams leaving us with monk and Tate for cb's..... F**K YOU RODGERS!!! Totally left us on our asses here.
     
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  14. One_Lars_Melvang

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    Just count yourselves lucky you weren't treated to his musings on "integrity". That was especially galling when he left us in the lurch.

    No question he did a fine job with you, and despite our obvious animosity towards him most Watford fans can still grudgingly admit that he did alright with us. The problem is that he's ruthlessly ambitious and has a real problem with telling the truth. With us, if he'd said he wanted to go to Reading as they were offering better wages and a bigger budget (and with it a shot at promotion), we might not have been happy, but we'd have appreciated the honesty. Same goes for you, I'm sure: if he'd said he had had a great couple of years but felt the time was right to challenge himself at a bigger club, I doubt too many of you would have begrudged him.

    For someone who professes to be a student of the game, he doesn't seem to learn lessons (at least where off the field matters are concerned).
     
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  15. Norway-jack

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    good post one-lars <ok>

    The Liverpool job is not really one to turn down but he could have done things a little bit better, id like to think that was more down to the way Liverpool delt with things and not rodgers.

    Im happy for him but of course i want him to fall flat on his face!! we took martinez and rodgers when they were unfancied the club is the strength not the manager , im looking forward to the interview process now another busy summer !!! <laugh>
     
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  16. swanseaandproud

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    erm was it not jinks who said liverpool has not been in contact only yesterday.<laugh> was it jinks who denied taking prattley to forest in order to sell him that was proven by the player and the board.<laugh> was it not jinks who said he never had talks with uncle dave about martinez which came out he did.<laugh> need i go on lads. you dont know him like i know him which is obvious....you can take his word with a pinch of salt......and thats a fact..<ok>
     
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  17. PGFWhite

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    And it is Jinks who has led us to 10 years of success.
     
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  18. Kifflom!

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    Is that the same FACT that we'd "never get promoted under Jinks".

    That was one of yours wasn't it? <laugh>
     
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  19. PGFWhite

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    Who has got to sort out the mess created by R***** jumping ship - Jinks.

    Where is R***** - as far away from Swansea as possible pursuing the Brendan Rogers pathway to success, whoever it is with.
     
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  20. Crackerjack

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    I wish Rodgers all the best luck & thank him for his fabulous input to where we are . The opportunity to manage a team like Liverpool is what most managers dream about . P.S. Leave the 4million on the desk on the way out Lol !!
     
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