Should I report people for Racism at matches or not????

At least you've been a man about it and confronted the bloke to establish he's an utter dick, rather than pre-emptively weaseling to the authorities.

 

Aren't you the webcam boy? Why are you filling your pretty head with the difficult questions in life. Just sit back and relax.

 

Entirely a personal choice this one Tash.

 

you didnt need to tell us the exact stuff the person said. and yes i would say report them. '' he was a sound guy very passionate about the toon but racist '' '' oh no what do i do '' your ****ing daft you. now that its surfaced that your a racist too thats given me an even more of a reason to not like you. complete bellend.

 

Tell them they're taking the piss and to sit down and shut up

 

I have read this forum since it transferred and nothing has yet tempted me to join the various debates - until now.

'I sit next ..' says "Chanting racism would be too far IMO" - bully for you Mr fairness!

We often hear this kind of nonsense don't we? "this country needs to man up" (including the women presumably) - "free speech is non(e) existent" - "shocked at the things .." (stupid lefty things no doubt) ".. you can get done for" - "if it gets really abusive then yes" (QUESTION - wtf is really abusive then?) "... but not petty things please" (what are petty things in racism then einstein?).

I have a firm view on people like "ISitNextTo" - they have no moral compass; everyone else is too sensitive - otherwise you'd have to intervene and you have no guts for that.

I may have inadvertently conveyed how I feel about "I sit next to a"... yawn.... "Leazes .." etc etc and somehow I have done so without having to refer to his/her skin colour - and there's the magic, mate, - your skin colour has F all to do with anything and pointing it out does not strengthen my argument, in fact it is only picked up on by Bullies, stupid Bullies (see how I'm not mentioning your skin colour at all here, I'm just implying that you join in with and support bullies because you are chinless!!) these, of course, are the same bullies that might pick on your son or daughter at school because they look a bit different - is that ok?? Thought not. Grow up Badger. Grow a pair Tash - and it's fine to use the authorities, saves your knuckles. Also Tash - just asking the question probably shows your discomfort with any remark you'd made earlier of your forum life, which is maturity.

RayLasloAlmasy

 

Quite a dossier you seem to have on Tash and Badger, László Almásy, you must have been taking a lot of notice and by taking the time to come on and give such a lengthy comment means you must care a lot about what's been said. You're not a descendant of László Almásy are you?

 

That reads like something out of a 'Dear Deirdre' column FFS

 

It's as simple as that, no need to be a little nark.

Especially if you have racist tendencies yourself as that is hypocritical

 

Agent B

Hello. No relation to our Hungarian friend, it was just the first name that popped in to my head at half midnight with a bellyful of ale fuelling my righteous sense of indignation!

No dossiers here but yes I care about the race abuse thing - not that I suffer any disadvantage in life, white anglo saxon employed etc. It's a fairness thing for me - many people are indeed tosspots and iffy footballers (not sure I'm allowed to use stronger words on here!) but it's not determined by their skin colour for me so using that just fatally weakens any insult and turns it back on the giver, in my view.

Leazes - I'm aware that you're a regular on here so my apologies if I was a bit cross - it was the impact of your comments on me, not you as a person, that I was really judging. See - I've sobered up now and feel all conciliatory!

 

I personally think having racist points of view and opinions, shouldn't get someone prosecuted or fired from a job.

People shouldn't be allowed to racially abuse others, or be able to treat others different because of a skin colour in the work place, but I don't think people should have to censor everything they do just because it may offend people.

Arab women who wear those things over their entire bodies scare the **** out of me, they could be carrying anything under those clothes, but I couldn't stop them getting into the ward where I work simply because they choose to wear clothes that are part of their culture.

I would feel worried to let them on to a ward with a load of newly born defenseless kids and their mothers, but at the same time, would be afraid to get down for racism.

It's funny because if there was a goth wearing a hoodie covering his face and he looked suspicious, I could probably stop him, but I couldn't stop an Islamic woman from entering the ward because it's part of her religion/culture or w.e

****ing stupid country.

 

Don't you think that might apply to the guy at the game?

Do you think it's acceptable to call someone a **** without bringing race into it then? Such as Bellamy calling Krul a Dutch **** at Anfield? All sorts of language is let go at a football match but the moment you mention the word "black" in a slur you run the risk of being dragged through the courts. And calling someone a black **** doesn't make you racist, in the same way that calling Crouch a lanky twat doesn't mean you're prejudiced against tall people. Britain is way too touchy on the race issue, the oversensitivity just heightens racial tension in my opinion.

 

Yeah, and if someone makes the odd racist remark I tend to turn deaf to it, but some people make several racist remarks, like this bloke, and there's a point where anger isn't an excuse.

Sometimes it just comes out, but if it's happening time and time again in a short space of time, the person has time to think about what he/she is saying and try and control themselves.

 

Racism would be if you didn't serve someone at your shop because they're black. That's racism.

Saying someone is a black twat isn't racist. If calling someone a white bastard and "pinky" doesn't get you jailed then neither should calling someone a black bastard.

 

Wow, didn't think I'd attract that kind of response

I do have to make another point though. Take applying for the police, the police openly admit they want to employ more officers from minority groups, and through my experience of talking to officers about this subject, they all agree that they are likely to hire more ethnic minorities and homosexuals ahead of anybody else, positive discrimination they call it. To me, there is nothing positive about discrimination, so unfortunately race does play a part in life(I think that was the point you were getting at, I was lost between the mockings of my username) and it is used by the most powerful working field in the country. If that wasn't what you were getting at then I apologise but at least I've opened another debate.

 

Whoever has the right credentials and impresses the most at interviews should get the job. Simple as.

Skin colour means nothing. If the whole police force was white because they all had the best credentials, and someone filed a complaint against police for having no black members to it's force, then that's just sad.

 

Fraid I don't agree. Once you link a term of abuse with a racist tag, it becomes racist abuse.

If I call you posh, it's just a description of your class background. I might admire it, despise it or not care. Once I call you a posh ****, it becomes a term of classist abuse. I've made your class part of the insult.

I could call you a Geordie and you'd be proud to be called one. I call you a thicko Geordie and I've insulted you and your background.

You can't insult someone while simultaneously refering to their race without making it a racist insult.

 

Agree with this. I don't mean this as a dig but do you think Racism is also based on where your from in England? I hear next to nothing at St marys, but if something is heard the general reaction is a few glaring stares and if he/she does it again someone usually asks them to shut up.

I wouldn't be adverse to letting the club know though.

 

I don't know how the incidence of racism varies across England. I've never heard any at St James, but I know others have. I've heard one offensive remark in a pub watching a game (and bottled out of calling the person on it - - it was obviously his local and it wasn't mine). I've heard remarks made at the gym I go to twice - - I did call the fellow on that and he stopped.

Clearly there is some up here. There would probably be more expressed if it weren't for the fact that the person saying it would generally get grief from the people around him

 

Sexist.