The title of champions though is subjective. At the end of the day the CL is a cup competition, so its not always going to transpire that the best team in Europe wins it every year. If so it would have been : 2005: Chelsea 2006: Barcelona/Chelsea 2007: Man Utd 2008: Man Utd 2009: Barcelona 2010: Barcelona 2011: Barcelona 2012: Real Madrid That would be more accurate portrayal imo, of who has been best in Europe in the last few years. Its the same with all sports tho, Frank Bruno held the boxing world title for a time, and i can say with abolute certainty that Frank Bruno, was never, at ANY point, the best Boxer in the world
It's not hypocritical at all, most fans, including myself said Barca were very lucky at Stamford Bridge, Ovebro's (SP?) performance was dire but you can't say Barca had luck in the final, they just dominated Utd and if anything were unlucky not to add to their 2-0 margin. Chelsea on the other hand, parked the bus, tank and stadium at the nou camp and then done the exact same at the Allianz and were able to get, in my opinion, two very, lucky wins in a competition glorified by having the best teams in Europe compete in what you'd hope would be entertaining matches.
Yeah, right. You keep telling yourself that 6th place is a decent finish. The mighty Spurs juggernaut hasn't finished that low in three seasons
If last minute goals, missed penalties, red cards, off-the-line clearances and penalty shoot-outs aren't entertaining, then i don't know what is.....
Please, as if finishing in the top 4 for a team like Chelsea wasn't a priority. For a club of your stature and financial power, you should be aiming to win ALL competitions you compete in, not "focusing energy" on certain cups.
Personally, I'd prefer attack minded, free-flowing football where keepers may as well become spectators because the goals are of such fantastic quality is what I'd prefer. And for the record, red cards are not entertaining.
Couldn't care less, we're the Champions of Europe sunshine What's 5 points when you can win two major cups?
And you also haven't won a major trophy for about 20 seasons. 4th or 6th, only 2 teams in London in the C.L next year and you aint one of em.
You think wrong. Mourinho invented the term and has frequently used the tactic himself, both before and after saying it.
True but given Spurs have used this tactic before (as has probably 99% of teams at some point) it would be slightly hypocritical to moan about Chelsea doing it against much stronger opposition no??
Do you get a trophy for that?? Doesn't matter anyway as you still wouldn't have won it!! Mm, whose had the greatest season in their history and which 2 other london clubs have again won fuk all? It's an easy answer but you don't seem to grasp it.
Slightly changing topic for a minute, a mate of mine actually made a good point while I was trying drink my sorrows away in the pub the other night. Now Abromavich has won every competition of worth with Chelsea, do Chelsea fans expect him to stay around longer? Or do you get the feeling he'll just pump his money into something else now? He comes across to me as a guy who has to get what he wants and when he gets it, just throws it away. Genuine question, not trying to wum. Just want to hear opinions of Chelsea fans.
And earned by Arsenal who have qualified for 15 years in a row and usually get to the latter stages, including a final. I suspect more of those points have been earned by Arsenal than Chelski over those years.
Coefficient points only last 6 years I think, which means Arsenals final against Barca would have no bearing on the current standing, I found a list of who had earnt the most points somewhere, I will find it..... Here we go, the top 10 coeff point earners: 1 FC Barcelona Esp 27.7750 28.6624 30.5856 36.6428 34.1714 157.837 2 Manchester United Eng 32.5750 28.0000 28.5856 36.6714 16.0500 141.882 3 Chelsea Eng 28.5750 25.0000 22.5856 26.6714 33.0500 135.882 4 Bayern München Ger 22.7000 22.5374 30.6166 24.1332 33.0500 133.037 5 Real Madrid Esp 14.7750 14.6624 22.5856 33.6428 36.1714 121.837 6 Arsenal Eng 21.5750 22.0000 25.5856 22.6714 22.0500 113.882 7 Internazionale Ita 16.0500 13.2750 34.0856 21.3142 20.2714 104.996 8 Atlético Madrid Esp 14.7750 17.6624 24.5856 9.6428 34.1714 100.837 9 FC Porto Por 15.5856 17.3570 21.0000 31.7600 12.3666 98.069 10 Olympique Lyon Fra 13.3856 15.2000 28.0000 19.1500 19.1000 94.835
That's your opinion fella and I won't take it away from you however I know who's position I'd rather be in