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  1. Nostalgic

    Nostalgic Well-Known Member

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    for next England manager? He would get my vote any time ahead of HR.
     
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  2. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Don't think he'd do it but if we got someone like him I'd actually be interested in it. Redknapp... Not so much.
     
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  3. Nads

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    I doubt the FA will outbid Abramovich....
     
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  4. Davie 1973

    Davie 1973 Well-Known Member

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    The Chelski old guard wouldn't let AVB clear them out.

    So will Abramovic back Pep to rebuild ,or will he listen to the likes of Terry and Lampard when they come grissling about the new manager ?
     
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  5. Tickler

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    Pep has only done it at Barca, and lets face facts, my left foot could manage Barca

    I dont think he is necessarily a good coach as like Bruce, he has no Plan B as he thought Plan A always worked

    I think his next job will show if he is a good coach

    Dont give england job though!
     
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  6. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    This is partly true, bet plenty of managers have failed at Barca, and they've ALWAYS had the players.

    He does seem to have that touch of getting players to believe they are the best in the world, but, you're right, this season teams have sussed them a bit.

    Let them have the ball, keep it tight, you can beat them.

    Teams like Levante & Espanyol have taken, or came within minutes of taking points several times, and Madrid, free flowing, unable to defend, but with variable midfield patterns, have minced them in the league.
     
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    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

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    I think Guardiola should take some time away from the heat of managing a big club and show us how good he really is by taking over at Darlington and using his obscene wages from the recent past, pay off the clubs debts and guide them back into the league and onwards and upwards to the Premiership, now THAT would be a real achievement and show the football world how good he is, but it will never happen, the last manager to go that route was a certain Mr Clough and HE was a real manager.
     
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  8. ...And Out Come the Wolve

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    Guardiola has a rubbish record!

    Out of the last three games his team have only managed a draw at home and two losses.
     
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  9. billofengland

    billofengland Well-Known Member

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    No more, none English managers for me, It dont work, as weve seen in the past ten years.
     
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  10. Darlo Black Cat

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    and how many more years before that did it succeed with an english manager?

    i dont get the english vs non-english manager debate... the problem is the whole set up needs reinvigorating like the Germans right have down through their accademies and under 17 levels and now they look like a real force again. all youngsters are trained in the same fashion at all clubs in the top 2 divisions so that there is a continuity in their style of play. we fall down because of all the foreign imports that stunt the development of our youngsters coming through.

    in the mean time if a top manager of any nationality becomes available and wants the job give them 2 years to see what they can do
     
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  11. Nostalgic

    Nostalgic Well-Known Member

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    Give me the German system every time. 3-5-2 played by all teams at all levels including national, plus there approach is very English directness.

    German clubs have followed academy and junior model since the 1960s and world cups and many ECL successes says it all. All players are warned that if they play outside of Germany they jeopardise there chances of making the national team. Holland do the same but not many players stay at home.
     
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  12. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    1,000,000% no.


    I don't want another couldn't give a **** foreigner managing the national team. I'd sooner fail with a blood and guts man like Redknapp than another greedy money is the king mercenary foreign coach who doesn't have the passion or the desire to manage England.

    What happens if we play Spain in the quarter finals or semi finals? Where would his heart and soul be for that game? Certainly not with England. WE would probably still get beat if Redknapp was manager but at least he would give a **** about it. Crapello just finished 3 years of taking the piss and the money and he couldn't even be arsed to learn the language. Can you imagine the Germans employing a manager who spoke no German? FFS.

    I know Guardiola is a fluent English speaker but he isn't English and that's everything for me. If we sign a foreigner for the finals, I hope we get totally humiliated and knocked out of the group stages. I'd sooner have Pearce if that was the alternative.
     
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  13. the falcon

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    Cest, are you implying that Redknapp does not care about the remuneration, the free meals and 5 star accommodation that comes with being the national manager. I for one think that he is not of the standard required to be the national team manager, but then i'm not on the F.A. panel. Redknapp will treat the England job as though he is off on his jollies for a couple of years and we will be no further forward. I hope in all honesty that i am wrong, but time will tell.
     
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  14. Bizarreknives

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    For just a split second there, I thought you were saying Pep wasn't as good as Bruce, then my eyes focused.
    I disagree with the whole 'he's only done it at Barca' thing. He's a real top quality manager.
     
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    How is he a top quality manager?

    I wouldnt rate him anywhere near Ferguson, Wenger, Mourinho etc

    At most he's a good manager until proven that he can do it with more than Barcelona
     
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