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O/T......CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL......CHELSEA v. BAYERN MUNICH

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by The FRENCH TICKLER, Apr 26, 2012.

  1. Putter65

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    I think Chelsea have a great chance of winning.

    It will be tough on the 4th place team in the premiership though if Chelsea do win.
     
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  2. Nick HCAFC

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    It's years of international failure v them I reckon that gets us, hate to say it but will be the same again at the Euros probably especially if ' i didnt mean to knee him in the back i'm not that kind of guy it was accidental' man Terry is playing, they will be licking their lips over there if he's picked! Chelsea might well win though.
     
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  3. Putter65

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    They can't pick Terry in the squad can they ?

    Surely not !

    The press will have a field day ! They will use is upcoming court case to rock the boat like they always do.
     
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  4. Hank Scorpio

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    Was one of the worst excuses i've ever heard.

    It'll be sickening to see him lift the trophy, if Chelsea win and all. He's a complete scumbag.
     
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  5. PLT

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    Anyone watching the Europa League game now?

    Van Wolfswinkel just got booked ruling him out of the final and it was the most pointless booking ever. All he did was slide to get on the end of a cross and caught a defender on the way, a foul but absolutely no way was a card needed. Obviously the defender being foreign started rolling around and wincing like he'd broke his leg or something and got him booked. Can't believe more isn't done about all this crying every time a European player gets fouled. It's not quite diving because there is a foul but it's just as bad because it's a conscious attempt to get someone booked!

    Agreed. They'll teach us all to hate our own players just before the tournament but we can ignore that every other team is full of cheats because they aren't Terry or Rooney. No doubt there will be be some massive media scandal that breaks between now and the tournament - probably something about who's shagging who, the media love that.
     
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  6. Nick HCAFC

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    I just go on football Golaccio even though Scumbag is probably being kind to him. When I've seen him at international level he's a sitting duck for teams like the Germans and they even came out and said so after smashing us 4-1. Hopefully Munich will be a good warm up for Cahill and at international level too, even if the main danger he will face in both scenarios is Gomez, another one with a very dodgy international record, though I think he will come good at the Euros.
     
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  7. Nick HCAFC

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    Terry isn't international class v the very best teams Premier if he ever was in the first place, if he wasn't picked it will boost our chances sorry to say it.
     
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  8. PLT

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    I'd love to see where they said that! He's still our best CB. Whenever he does anything good it's good for about 5 seconds, if he does anything bad it's never forgotten, he can't win. We could drop all the established players and play a load of kids but there's a good reason that so many managers have stuck with the established players, it's cos they're good at football.
     
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  9. Putter65

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    We usually go as one of the favourites and we always disapoint. I wonder if if it's going to be the other way round this time ?
     
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  10. Hank Scorpio

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    I think that was when our "golden generation" (and i use it loosely) was still in it's pomp ie around 2002-2006 era. Them days are long gone now surely.

    Nobody can say, after the last World Cup, that England fans will call themselves favourites before a ball is kicked. Not even my Scottish mother who likes to wind me up.

    Time to bring in the youngsters.
     
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  11. Nick HCAFC

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    I'm onto it Premier, think it was one of their senior players maybe Ozil, will get back to you!
     
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  12. Putter65

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    The media will big up our chances for sure.

    Alan Mullary was the only pundit who said we had 'no chance' before the last world cup.
     
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  13. Nick HCAFC

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    http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/06/27/germany-4-1-england-tactics/
    Thinking back it was either Schweinsteiger or Muller commenting on England and Terry but have a read of this, Upson is laid into but Terry was equally as poor from my memories of the game, who would want a player playing in a match like that when he has already proven he is useless in that scenario already.
     
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  14. Nick HCAFC

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8766494.stm
    It was the Germany manager who said to target Terry- this is what I was thinking of. It's not an explicit criticism of Terry as such but a tactical suggestion- anyway what I would say is that any tactically astute international manager would just exploit Terrys weaknesses in the same way again. At least he wouldn't have Upson with him next time, how the hell he got in the team god knows looking back on it.
     
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  15. Jaggro

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    Clearly you didn't understand what I was saying - I only corrected it to mirror what you were doing and hopefully demonstrate how irritating it is when people are so particular and pedantic.
     
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  16. RicardoHCAFC

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    They should probably just wipe the slate clean after the group stage like they do in the World Cup. Although a bigger priority should be to allow players to appeal red cards for reasons other than mistaken identity if they haven't already, Darren Fletcher missing the final for making a perfect tackle a few years ago was ridiculous.
     
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  17. PLT

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    We usually go as one of the competitive sides but not favourites like Spain have been prior to the last few tournaments. We always get out of our group which many of the other decent sides can't say (France and Italy anyone?) and we always get knocked out by a decent side. Germany, Portugal, Portugal again, Brazil, etc. We never get humiliated like some teams. If not winning is disappointing then yes we always disappoint but I don't think any team can be expected to win when there's 5 or 6 other good teams.

    We got loads of injuries all at CB I seem to remember which led to Upson being in the team.

    I actually agree with most of that article. They used the counter-attack really well and the way we played then worked in their favour. They played with two holding midfielders and a front 4 like City do now and our midfield were all pretty attacking. This is why the likes of Parker will be important at the Euros. Don't think it was particularly Terry's fault at all though.

    That one was indeed ****ing ridiculous.
     
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  18. originallambrettaman

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    Utter bollocks.

    Terry may be a complete ****er, in fact he is a complete ****er, but he's a quality centre back and if he's not going to be one of our centre backs in the Euro's, it will be for moral reasons, not footballing ones.
     
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  19. bum_chinned_crab

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    People always say this and it is total bollocks - we're one of the favourites with UK bookies because a lot of people in the UK like to put their money on England winning, hence the odds drop. That's how bookies work. I can cast iron guarantee that we're hardly ever seen as a major threat by the other nation's managers and players and why would we be? One solitary semi final appearance in either a World Cup or a Euros when they were hosted away from our shores is frankly a disgrace. How many world cup and euro semis have Germany and Italy shared between them?
     
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  20. Nick HCAFC

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    I'm glad I found that Premier anyway just knew I saw that they had tactically exploited the centre-backs, my gut instinct is that it won't be Terry playing in a match at that level internationally again anyway. We are short of what it takes to win the Euros unless luck takes over, Spain and Germany are both much better than us for starters.I'd love to see us make the final in a massive tournament but it's going to take a manager with massive tactical awareness and that's not Redknapp or Pearce unfortunately.
     
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