Pardew Confident of summer ''Warchest''

My take on it is that Ashley will run our club as a business. If we receive an offer for any player that he feels is acceptible then that player will be moved on. When players who are on top wages such a Barton and Colo come to the end of their contracts he will offer them wages that are more in keeping with the new wages structure. If they don't accept this then they too will be moved on.

Having said this, Mike Ashley is not a complete fool. He must realise that for him to get any return on his investment, or even be able to sell it and recoup most of his expenditure, the club has to be a secure mid table Premiership team and consequently investment will be needed to protect his asset.

Therefore, I see the £35 million being used for the club, but not all in transfers and wages. It means that this year Ashley doesn't have to put his hand in his pocket. I would expect Pardew to be able to spend £15-20 million but he will be expected to bring in a couple of more gems like Tiote.

Although Ashley is a gambler, I do not see him taking too much risk with the club by making us fight a relegation battle every season. Pardew is good enough to manage a mid table team and I expect that this is what we will become, with enough investment being given to keep us there but also selling our most promising talents for decent profit.

 

I agree with this chap. this is exactly how i see us panning out. He'll make us a finacially attractive prospect to future investors and will try not to rock the boat too much until that point. i do see the likes of colo getting nothing like the contracts they're on now when it comes to renewing them, although on someone like colo who he paid £10m for he won't want to see him walk away for free so might make a bit more of an effort to keep him. the same should be said of barton, but probs won't be.

 

Yeah, you're right. I mean Carroll had a 5 year contract and could have stayed, and the entire story about him leaving makes perfect sense, but we should automatically think it's a load of crap because it's Ashley. Right?

The worst type of NUFC fan I can think of is the one who just hates hates hates regardless of the situation, and doesn't have the mental ability to take a step back and look at the facts.

That's just one giant block of text-based crap.

I'm not defending Ashley at all. He's made some awful choices and he will probably continue to do so at times. However, the sheep-like morons have a habit of ALWAYS thinking something is a lie, or ALWAYS blaming Ashley for something - even if it had nothing to do with him.

Some good steps are being made, contracts have been signed and it appears that players are being brought in, so why are people whinging about Carroll when it had nothing to do with Ashley? Again, for the 100th time, he could have said... No.

So far, with Pards in charge, it has been all talk (apart from Carroll requesting to leave). Nothing has really happened this year for me to say that Pards and Ashley are deceptive lying scum who are trying to screw us over. They've talked the positive talk, so we'll see if it's true in the Summer, and we can judge the facts then. UNTIL then, have some bloody faith - however small it may be.

We have nowhere near 4 times the amount of attending fans than either Bolton or Wigan. Stop being a deluded pleb.

 

I agree with Chappaz.

We all know that Ashley has a track record for lying to the fans, but this does not mean that everything bad that happens is his fault, and everything good has nothing to do with him. (You can't have it both ways)

As Chappaz says (and I have said before), this summer is the time to judge Ashley's true intentions, and next season is when we should judge Pardew, when he has bought and sold a few players and the team playing is his and not one he inherited.

The problem with some fans is that unless we froth at the mouth with a rabid hate for Ashley and never accept that anything he may do may benefit the club (even if it is only a side effect of the benefit that it gives to Ashley), they accuse us of being idiots who are taken in by Ashley's bull****. Which is just laughable

 

100% agree with both of you. I'm sick of the Ashley bashing, it will get us nowhere.

 

This ^. Chappaz makes valid and as far as I'm concerned correct points. It is just as delusional to think that everything MA does is to the detriment of the club and Pardew really hasn't been shown up on a lie at any time. As Chappaz says wait until the summer then we will see. Until then get behind the manager.

 

If a player is two months into a five year contract, I think it's perfectly reasonable to consider keeping him.

When our manager says things that are going to be undermined or simply not true, then I don't consider it unreasonable to be sceptical or cynical about his latest lip service.

 

Who wants a player who doesn't want to be there?

"Alan, I want to leave the club"
"No Andy. No one cares"

If you're having to knock back MASSIVE offers, and then the player puts in a transfer request, I think your hands are pretty much tied.

 

I would certainly want Andy Carroll at Newcastle United - it's not a case of him not wanting to be here, it's simply him being lured away by a massive pay day. If you are not happy at a football club you don't sign five-year deals to prove your unhappiness.

If you really believe that Alan Pardew has the final say in transfers, which your mini-script would seem to imply, then you are very gullable.

 

Know what's far worse than people who don't rip the piss out of Ashley for no apparent reason? Those who are unable to see any fault with their messiah Carroll. Pull your head out of his arse will you? He signed a contract, then realised that Liverpool were after him and that he could get a much bigger wage, so he didn't want to be here anymore, and off he went. There's nothing Ashley or Pardew could have done, other than submitting to his demands (which is awful management of the club and causes disruption) or forcing him to stay under his own will. It's as simple as that really.

And of course Pardew hasn't got the final say. Ashley is the owner and Pardew is an employee, so Ashley has the right to veto any decision anyone makes under him. What I said was just an example of how stupid it would be to keep him here when he wanted to go - for whatever reason.

Anyway, all I'm dealing with here (and all I ever deal with) is the facts. All you're doing is making up biased stuff in your head based on your deeply rooted negative feelings towards Ashley. I'm keeping an open mind and taking each real situation (i.e. not made up) as it comes.

 

Chappaz, you talk an incredible amount of sense. I may just refer all Ashley haters to this post. They piss me off too.

 

Have some rep

I agree with most of what you say, especially about people who are so blinkered that they cannot accept that Ashley has done anything right since he has been here.

My only disagreement is that I feel that both the club and Carroll wanted him to go, and I don't blame either party.
Carroll was offered around 3 times his salary and although Newcastle are his club, Liverpool are a great club in world football. (I have a feeling that he is not settling well and may regret going though). £35 million, in my opinion, was too good to turn down. I know that relegation would cost us more, but I am 100% sure that we will stay up and that money will be used to develop the club (not just spent on transfers).

The summer will show us Ashley's true intentions for the club, but after reading the accounts from last year I think that he does want to develop the club and cement our place in the top 10. (even if it is so he can sell us and get his money back)

 

Very well said Chappaz. Ashley bashing has become an addiction for some and it sometimes defies logic or common sense. Needed to be said and you put it over excellently.

 

Here Chappaz, a bit of rep from me too!

 

Loving this rep fest.

Without a doubt I think the decision to sell Carroll was made easier by the monumental fee. IF the media stories are true, Newcastle rejected these massive offers to keep a hold of their star player. Everyone has their price, and the decision to do that was probably borderline as it is, so when Carroll asked to leave, that just tipped it over the edge and left them without any choice.

Probably a good decision though, really. With a bit of clever scouting we could buy a striker for far less who scores just as many goals, leaving an awful lot of cash left over for other players. My only disappointment is that Carroll could have become another geordie toon legend, but any chance of that legacy was crushed when he decided that he wanted more money.

And yeah, I'd say that Ashley's intentions are positive. Everyone might have berated him for cutting all of these costs, but just look at the accounts now. We're one of the healthiest teams in the EPL financially. That's even after relegation, which can easily financially cripple a club (a lot of people seem to forget this and think that cash just appears out of thin air). He also invested £140million of his own cash, and if that didn't happen, I'm not sure if the club would be anywhere near the EPL right now.

I don't doubt that Ashley and co will make some unfavourable or wrong decisions in future. It's bound to happen. Hopefully though, they will just be minor blips in an overall focus towards growing the club and moving higher up the table.

Oh and, to be honest, if there's anyone at the club which I have the least amount of trust for, it's Derek Llambias. Don't forget that he's the managing director of the club, and if he follows that role like any other normal business, then he will be a major force in the decisions which are made.

 

I agree.

I really don't like or trust that slimey bastard.

 

Bring back chris mort!!!

 

This subject is pointless at the moment because if we get relegated we will be finished forever

 

You sir, are a dick.

 

In all fairness, you have a point. But have some faith boyo!