At last a manager comes straight out with it and says a lot of managers are losing confidence in referees. It may go even further as every single decision seems to go to the bigger wealthier clubs. Maybe there are secret meetings between refs and clubs urging them to favour bigger clubs in order to get them into europe and generate more money. I know this post will be met with derision but I really think the league is corrupt.
dont think its a conspiracy but i do find 50 50 decisions always go for the big clubs, and that things the small clubs get fined for ie Mick Mac at Wolves for fielding weaken teams would never happen to the top 4, or was it Blackpool, anywayour crowding the ref is a laugh,there were 4 instances just this weekend which makes the charge bollocks.
Ashley Young also needs to be hauled up in front of the FA & banned for the rest of the season for cheating! This type of cheating is more prevalent in the game now and needs to be stamped out. It really gets on my tits it does!
I don't think that the league is corrupt. QPR got a shocker yesterday but that stemmed from a player diving and conning the ref. If it had happened against ManU the FA would probably have quietly dropped the ref down to do Darlo's game next week because SAF would have done his nut. In order to stamp out this inconsistency the FA need to do the same for QPR. I also think that retrospective yellow cards for diving need to be brought in and if the opposition player was sent off as a result then it should be a retrospective red card. I don't think that refs are fundamentally dishonest but I do think that getting big decisions wrong against the big boys is punished more harshly than wrong decisions against smaller teams and therefore they are more likely to bottle out against the top 4. Saying that Arsenal got a shocker yesterday as well as Ballotelli should have been off for that tackle.
Dont think its corrupt just think its human nature. Simarlarly in Boxing if the fight is close and it goes to points it usually goes to the hometown fighter/champion/promoters fighter. Retrospective banning has to be implemented, Young should get atleast a one match ban for yesterday and Merry should have his rescinded. You can't change the result unfortunately. When it comes to technology, start with goal line then go from there.
Consider being a ref & you make a wrong or harsh decision against man u, SAF complains & you are dropped to ref a Lower league game the next week. You are always going to give man u the 50/50 decisions. This needs to change from the very top.
I don't think for a second that referees are corrupt. They probably do give a few more of the 50-50's to the big clubs than the small clubs but i also think there are other factors which make it look worse. The better clubs are more likely to be on the attack, or in the opposition half so fouls are more likely to get them penalties and free kicks in good areas. Also, if they get a free kick they don't deserve or a corner which should have been a free kick they are more likely to make something out of it so it gets highlighted more. Even amongst bad decisions there is an element of making your own luck - Evertons goal against Norwich sums that up!
We should have Larsson done for the dive at Wolves as well. They're all into it. If we want to be fair then it applies across the board. Retrospective cards is a good idea, too. Fines should also apply....as a % of salary, so that Balotelli would get stuffed more than Ryan Noble, because his game (premier league) involves more financial affect.
In an interview on Talk Sport Radio the other week, the ex-referee Graeme Poll stated that he, and every referee he knew, would not give a decision against a top club unless they were a 110% sure that it was correct, simply because if they got it wrong their careers would suffer. The example he used was 'If a wrong penalty decision was given against Norwich, then nobody really cares, but if a wrong decision was given against Man U, then it is headline news, and the referee suffers the consequences'. I can't believe that there hasn't been an outcry about this interview, and the fact that there hasn't tells me that it is just accepted as the norm.
I hadn't heard that. If the goings on are true then it's a scandal!!! Call in the News of the World ...
I've gathered some statistics together for this topic. I'm sure every reader will find it all quite interesting. Starting with the number of penalties awarded for and against since the creation of the premier league in 1992. I'm using the clubs that are competing in this seasons premier league as I don't have enough time to create an all time league table right now. Nevertheless, it would appear asthough we can see a few familiar faces at the top of the premier league. http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_League_Penalty_Statistics.html Manchester United 56 26 +30 Chelsea 52 28 +24 Liverpool 54 34 +20 Arsenal 54 38 +16 Manchester City 47 40 +7 Everton 37 33 +4 Swansea City 6 3 +3 Fulham 41 40 +1 Tottenham Hotspur 43 43 0 Blackburn Rovers 44 44 0 Queens Park Rangers 3 3 0 Newcastle United 42 44 -2 Aston Villa 49 52 -3 Norwich City 2 7 -5 Stoke City 16 21 -5 Bolton Wanderers 34 40 -6 Wolverhampton Wanderers 12 18 -6 Wigan Athletic 27 38 -11 Sunderland 22 37 -15 West Bromwich Albion 17 32 -15 How about the number of red/yellow cards the 'ever present' clubs have recieved over the last 10 years? http://www.myfootballfacts.com/PremierLeagueDisciplineTables1992-93to2010-11.html RED CARDS: Everton 70 Arsenal 64 Chelsea 61 Manchester United 51 Tottenham Hotspur 51 Aston Villa 44 Liverpool 44 YELLOW CARDS: Chelsea 1,172 Everton 1,113 Arsenal 1,097 Tottenham Hotspur 1,044 Aston Villa 1,035 Manchester United 975 Liverpool 912 "Every club gets breaks here and there, you get good ones and bad ones. It evens itself out over the season, that will never change." Alex Ferguson 26/3/12 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/mar/29/sir-alex-ferguson-luck-refereeing
But our charge will remain, but will those other clubs be charged as well. I wont hold my breath. Two faced bastards at the F.A. if they have a spine it must be of the yellow variety.
QPR are where they are because they are ****. Goal line technology and a video ref are the way forward though.
Raging Kenny risks FA charge after raising conspiracy theory over 'inexcusable' refs Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...sks-FA-charge-referee-rage.html#ixzz1rdfMuB4M Kenny Dalglish appears to have called into question the integrity of match officials following what he calls 'inexcusable' decisions in Liverpool's last three games. The Reds manager, under fire following a slump in his side's league form that has seen their Champions League challenge wither, could now face an FA charge over his comments. Dalglish even called on match officials to explain their decisions to managers to avoid talk of a 'conspiracy' against his side. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps Kenny ought to take a look at the statistics I posted earlier in the thread. Over the last 10 years Liverpool have been shown the least red cards and the least yellow cards out of any of the ever present clubs in the premier league. During the same period of time Liverpool have recieved the 3rd best for/against ratio for penaltys given in their favour, weighing in with a whopping +20. Such a shame about that last 3 games given the last 10 years.
Not defending them as its obvious the major clubs are favoured, however is this not a simple, the top teams spend more time attacking and in the opposition's box and therefore on average are fouled more hence more penalties?
Yes I entirely agree that the teams that are attacking will receive more penalties. I suppose if the players of one team are allowed to put themselves about with much less restrain before they are booked whilst the opposition are recieving yellow cards for similar 'offences' will also assist the direction of the attacking play. Therefore, how do we explain Liverpool having the least yellow and red cards out of each of the ever present clubs? Interestingly enough, Everton are just about exact opposite to Liverpool, recieving more yellow and red cards than any of the other ever present clubs, only 2nd to Chelsea for yellows. Ofcourse those statistics are entirely coincidental as it is entirely wrong to suggest that Liverpool are anything other that an all round cleaner club than Everton with a much more honest set of players, who just happen to recieve fewer yellow and red cards which leads to increased attacking play and therefore more penalties. This is one area that I have great sympathy with Steve Bruce because the decisions that went against Sunderland for about 3 or 4 games off the belt when we were hovering around 6th position were bordering blatant and clear bias. I recall the 3-2 loss at Stoke where EVERY single goal of Stoke's ought to have been disallowed. Even MOTD broadcast highlights that distort most games in favour of the 'big clubs'.
Im not great with this kindov stuff especially on the internet and I may be wrong...... but was that sarcasm i detected?
Not at all. I agree that the teams that are attacking will recieve more penalties, this is obvious. I then went on to explain that if the players of one team are being booked for next to nothing and the players of another team are allowed to put themselves about then the outcome will be more attacking play in favour of the team that is recieving fewer bookings. Do you agree that a team that is allowed to put themselves about are likely to having more of the attacking play as opposed to a team that is being penalised for free-kicks and recieving more yellow cards? You rarely see a player sent off against Man United when United are winning 3 or 4 nowt. However watch a little closer when it is 0-0 with 20 minutes to go... a few free-kicks here, the odd booking there, complimented with the occasional, penalty and sending off! You only have to look at Man United last game for a perfect example. The ref killed two birds with one stone by sending of Derry and awarding a penalty to Man United. Did you see the incident? It was a total farce. Hughes was entirely correct to raise concerns... They certainly arn't in any hurry to bring in automatic TV technology, are they? Man must be United!
