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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Girvan Loyal 1690, Apr 1, 2012.

  1. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    Oh, you appear to have moved the goalposts, "earns on average around 35% more money" was not about the average wage apparently.
     
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  2. Mick

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    Fair colonial masters you may be, and actually were in a lot of places - but there is no point being sentimental about the United Kingdom. As a Northern Irish and British and indeed Irish citizen I have absolutely no political influence in Westminster - yet Westminster is the body that controls me.

    You can see how the status quo doesn't work for me, or a Scottish or a Welsh person.

    I truly believe as well that all four nations will prosper separately from each other - competition is the cornerstone of the British built world economy.
     
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  3. Mick

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    The random link you supplied has Ireland 2006 quoted with no context. My source is better, no doubt.
     
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  4. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    It's 2010 and the link is here:
    http://www.langlophone.com/20100526_edition/20100526_EU27_data_table_flipped.pdf

    The wiki article uses the same reference for all the figures and whichever column you look at you'll see that the UK is near the top and about 50% above the ROI figure. Did you really expect it to be otherwise?
     
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  5. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    As a Hertfordshire person I spent a decade being ruled over by Northern/Scotch/Welsh Labour. It's called "democracy".
     
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  6. Mick

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    We're fighting a bit silly here, that document you linked me to from the random website has the average UK wage at 44,496 euro which is plainly wrong.

    I'm really not meaning to get into a tit-for-tat who has the bigger cock argument, but wages are still significantly higher in the ROI, as are taxes and the price of property and the price of a pint - which is why I don't live there.

    But still, all significant wealth indicators tells you are better off living in Ireland, here's one for Gross Domestic Profit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita , but we could actually ignore this and go for the Human Development Index which actually rates how the normal person lives - instead of the middle/upper class - in which Ireland is 6th vs the UK's 19th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index#Non-UN_members_.28not_calculated_by_UNDP.29
     
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    When did I as an Irish nationalist have a say in this?
     
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  8. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    I have one vote, you have one vote. You think this is unfair, do you want two votes?
     
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  9. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    mick, pipe down. you benefit enormously because you are a british citizen.

    pay some tax will ye? <whyte>
     
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  10. Mick

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    I think you understand where I am coming from but chose not to - you have one vote with three different parties who can form government to chose from, I have one vote with no government parties to chose from. The person you vote for, if they win, gets to rule me. I never get to vote for or against that person, ever.
     
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    Seriously if the Daily Mail knew of all of my 'taking' and none of my 'giving' I'm certain it would at least make a column <laugh>
     
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  12. stopmeandslapme

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    According to your links the average ROI resident is better off than those from the UK, USA, Japan, Germany, France, etc. I don't know how those figures are arrived at and I don't understand how such a prosperous nation should have to be bailed out. Surely you should be bailing us out?
     
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  13. stopmeandslapme

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    I have a vote in a 2-party system which I would like to see changed to proportional representation. You have an equal vote in that system yet you choose to support a minority party with no hope of election. We are equals.
     
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  14. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    mick I can see where "you're" (NI citizen) coming from but you as in you personally can go fling pish at the moon cos yer a tax dodging ****! <laugh>

    bed time

    bring on the 2 day hangover...................:(
     
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  15. Mick

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    If you genuinely want to know the answer it is absolutely scandalous - I mean horrendous on the scale that history will look back on those involved as the biggest fools in history.

    Irish banks, as private institutions lent more money to organisations than the whole Irish government was actually taking in on tax. When the markets started to crash in 2007/08 people with a lot of vested interests managed to convince Brian Lenaghan (Irish finance minister) that it was a good idea for the government to guarantee all Irish banks, including bond holders in those banks.

    Americans who were openly trying to trade their bonds in Irish banks at 50% of their value suddenly heard that the Irish government would guarantee the full 100%. The Irish government at the time accepted around 250,000 euro of debt for every man, woman and child on the state as a guarantee that would be paid.

    It's one of the single biggest scandals in history, how a government accepted this on behalf of private investors onto the public purse - because they assumed it was a crisis of confidence and the asserts were fine.

    So the answer is the average Irish person does earn more and produce more, it's just the state has managed to take onto the national debt the sins of the massive banks which were housed in the state. The Irish didn't actually want to be a bail out country, but they were forced to go that way by the rest of the EU who insisted it was causing uncertainty in the market.

    As much as the Irish debts are relatively big at around 75% of GDP now, they are still much smaller than Italy and Spains and are nearly that of the UK, it's just that the markets fully expect the bigger countries never ever to default on those debts - whereas small countries are a risk.

    An absolute disgrace.
     
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  16. Mick

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    54m people vote in England, 1.5m people vote in NI - the English parties don't organise in NI, our votes are not equal - another nation which is not mine votes for the government which rules me, I am vastly outnumbered by the English political parties which do not give me the chance to vote for them ever.

    Surely you can see this.
     
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  17. Trypsin-1

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    am gonna make my own country

    **** all of you
     
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  18. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    Me Hun, me support England, me dunno why, all my friends and family do, me like Queen, me dunno why...
     
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  19. Trypsin-1

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    to build on this

    it's gonna be called Topaqen, which is the closest to 'Dog's bollocks' in Albanian I can find <ok>

    you can be any religion, apart from jewish, or protestant, or whatever they call the paki's these days

    buddha followers are alright
     
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  20. Kim Jong Il

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    Micks logical argument with Englishmen shame.

    It's futile mick they don't have the same quality of schools as us more civilised small countries.
     
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