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Season ticket prices 2012/13

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by GroveRanger, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

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    Will we expect to see a substantial drop in season ticket prices when (not if, I'm past hoping) we go back to the Championship?

    The owner, board and manager obviously thought that they were spending wisely when they signed everyone in the January transfer window and didn't bother to include any contingency for relegation. Maybe the real expectation was that we'd fire ourselves up the league to mid-table comfort and any thought of dropping down wasn't considered when signing those long and rather plump contracts.

    I don't want to have to pay the likes of Barton, SWP, Cisse, Zamora, Onuoha etc top premiership wages if we are playing Peterborough and Barnsley. If the board really think that these mercenaries are going to hang around they must be deluded but should the unthinkable happen and they all opt to stay and try to bring us back up I think as a gesture of good will or by way of an apology the season ticket prices need to drop by at least 25%.

    If we don't get back up at the fitst attempt then sell off the players who want away and start building a team that can do it without the egos. By then I have predicted on previous threads that the owner, most of the board, the manager and 50% of our current squad would have been offski.

    Liverpool was a blip, Sunderland was a crash landing back down to reality. There may be the odd freak result between now and the end of the season but as we have to face all top 5 teams in the end of season bun fight I don't hold out much for our chances. All I can look forward to is it being cheaper next season if they do the right thing and trim the entrance fees.
     
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  2. QPR Oslo

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    1) Beard has already come out and stated that allegations that players were signed without so called "relegation clauses" is not correct.

    2) If the following claim by the daily Star is correct it is hard to see much of a reduction in ticket prices!

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    Daily Star/Jerry Lawton - CHARGE FOOTBALL FANS £161 A PREMIERSHIP GAME TO BREAK EVEN

    PREMIER League clubs would have to increase prices by an average of £25 a ticket to break even.

    Title-chasing Manchester City would need to charge every fan an extra £161 per game to wipe out giant losses.

    Fellow big spenders Chelsea, with £50million Fernando Torres in their squad, would have to put £77 on their prices.

    And lowly Aston Villa (£63), QPR (£49) and Bolton (£48) would also need to impose massive hikes.

    The report, produced by the Financial Fair Play website, lays bare the perilous nature of top clubs’ finances.

    It reveals how some have become heavily reliant on wealthy owners and income from TV and commercial deals to combat massive turnstile losses.

    Only Arsenal, Manchester United, Tottenham and Wolves make enough profit not to need to subsidise match day tickets.

    The report says though big spending Manchester City’s appearance at the top of the subsidy league would “surprise few”, the level of “loss per ticket” was “shocking”.

    It adds: “Perhaps more surprising are the unsustainable subsidies provided to Aston Villa and Bolton fans.”

    The analysis is based on clubs’ profit before tax over the past three seasons.

    The report says that if Uefa enforce financial fair play rules and start exclud- ing big loss makers from the Champions League and Europa League, financial meltdown could follow.

    “The results could be disastrous,’’ the report states.

    DEBT LEAGUE

    Amount added to ticket to break even

    Manchester City £161
    Chelsea £77
    Aston Villa £63
    Queens Park Rangers £49
    Bolton Wanderers £48
    Sunderland £36
    Liverpool £22
    Newcastle United £18
    Wigan Athletic £17
    Fulham £15
    Blackburn Rovers £12
    Norwich City £9
    Swansea City £8
    Everton £7
    Stoke City £7
    West Bromwich Albion £2

    Amount some clubs could afford to take off ticket and still break even
    Wolverhampton W £4
    Tottenham Hotspur £13
    Manchester United £15
    Arsenal £28
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  3. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Please calrify. Are you talking about price hike per game (that is what you said about Man U) or per season ticket as per the title of your OP?
     
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  4. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Grove, we only need one more 'odd freak result', assuming a win when Swansea and Stroke come to LR. I do know that is a massive assumption at this stage in proceedings sadly. Still not impossible - not yet. One team will finsish 17th by a gnat's whisker and I still believe it can be us with just a little bit going our way for the last few games.
     
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  5. QPR Oslo

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    It's a Quote from an article in the Star, but I understand they are talking average ticket price per game.
     
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  6. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    My limited understaning of finances / accounts is not the level of debt that is important (to a point) but the level of profitability and solvency.

    Wiki "Solvency, in finance or business, is the degree to which the current assets of an individual or entity exceed the current liabilities of that individual or entity.[1] Solvency can also be described as the ability of a corporation to meet its long-term fixed expenses and to accomplish long-term expansion and growth.[2]"

    I suppose the Rangers model is the one to avoid ie financing today on the basis of tomorrow's revenue. A brand like Man U must be relatively safe due to its popularity and profitability.

    If the people behind QPR have done the same thing then that is worrying but from listening to Amit trimming expenses, I think he is too more savvy to have done that.
     
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  7. Eamon Holmes

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    <grr>It is about time the tossers who play in the top leagues realised that they have NEVER been worth millions a year. Even with BskyB money they have bled the game dry.

    It all started with the Italians and Spanish overpaying their players and has spread like a cancer.

    They play a game, for God's sake. They don't run the country (where the PM gets £2.5k a week), they don't save lives, they do not provide essential services ... etc.

    <grr>Don't get me started .......
     
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  8. Dave Thomas

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    Its grown to enormous proportions
     
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  9. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    Eamon - do get started. A satisfying theme. We pay the man that runs our Nation peanuts and we all know what that buys.
     
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  10. Dave Thomas

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    Only because the corrupt bastard makes more on the side. .... the revolution without be televised 41 years on and still waiting

    [video=youtube;qGaoXAwl9kw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGaoXAwl9kw&feature=related[/video]
     
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  11. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    If we paid a proper salary he would not need to!!
     
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  12. Trypsin-1

    Trypsin-1 Active Member

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    If ye think 2.5k a week is peanuts then i wouldn't mind being you! :grin:
     
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  13. Dave Thomas

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    2.5k a week is very cheap for a puppet

    He gets a lot more than that old kiddy

    Corrupt to the core and they weren't even voted in As the for labour idiot what sort of opposition is that ?

    As John Lydon recently said its very British man's right to riot

    Most of the masses are happy with Ringo's Starr's Organic Sausages

    Christ then we have the Olympics

    I suggest Swords invites us over
     
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  14. Rangers Til I Die

    Rangers Til I Die Well-Known Member

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    I am sure you would not! Forget the Political divide. What we pay the person who leads 70m people is not enough.
     
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  15. Trypsin-1

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    It is if it's David Cameron :grin: <ok>
     
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