I wasn't going to post again this season, but I want your thoughts on tonight's result. Call me plastic all you ****in' like, Lucaas, but enough is ****IN' ENOUGH! WE LET SLIP A TWO GOAL ****IN' LEAD! YOU TELL ME HOW!
been saying it for a while... last 10 prem games, 2 wins, 2 draws, 6 losses. that is absolutely unacceptable. #bringbackrafa
We gave away a sloppy goal and it gave them momentum. That combined with sitting back and poor defending. These things happen in football and unfortunately we were on the end of one.
Who picks the team? Who gives the team talks? Who decides on which subs to bring on? Who decides on tactics? Who arranges training sessions? Who do the players call boss?
haven't posted in here in a while but that was absolute rubbish tonight! lucky to go 2-0 as the match was ****. same old liverpool, we'll turn up and play against the big boys but once we play anyone outside the top 4/5 we turn to ****. Hodgson got sacked for less, not going to call for his head though since the league/4th place was over for us long before now and a league/FA Cup double should be enough to appease me until next season. Awful signings in the summer with the exception of Enrique, despite tonight
I'm with you on this,fed up with this mediocrity most of the time and tonight was another split in the paper that we've used to paper over the cracks.
We have to remember that we are missing Johnson, Agger - these 2 were a part of a solid defence which made us one of the best defences in the league. Lucas is Lucas and we need him in midfield. And Bellamy who has been our signing of the season. These are 4 top class players that we're missing so it's only natural that we're gonna struggle without them. Having said that, we need to buy top quality players in the summer. No stop gaps, no British superstars. Genuine quality. I'm afraid in this day and age, we need to throw money at this and Commoli needs to find the right players.
Utd have missed many games without at least two of their main defenders, shouldn't be an excuse for what is arguably one of the best defences this season.
Unfortunately, we are a long way off of Utd. Not in terms of players but I believe it's more to do with the mentality. When Utd score in an injury time winner, we're quick to say that it's down to Fergie time which is amusing but we all know the real reason. Utd fight for the win down to the last minute. And even when they're winning, they want more. We don't have that mentality and it showed last night when we were 2-0, took Suarez off and sat back. Man Utd have not played amazingly well this season, but yet they're top of the league and scored a lot of goals. That's because of the culture and mentality at the club.
Spot on. United defence has been poor this season, and the only thing they have in attack (personel wise) is a Valencia type player. I'm not saying they have an equal squad to us. But if Suarez was hitting the net instead of the post he'd easily be level with Rooney statistically. Carroll, Bellamy, Kuyt - Welbeck, Hernandez, Berbatov. Rooney has gone through long goal drouts, and Berbatovs had some terrible games, but i hasn't fazed the team like it has fazed our team.
Not a good record and certainly not acceptable. However, how many of those games did we deserve to lose, or not win? Not many. Obivously, points are what matter at the end of the day but we are not exactly playing poorly and losing, we are dominating games. I think people need to stop talking about the managers position, Kenny is in charge and will be for the very least until the end of the season. We can't buy any players so we have to work with what we've got. Just think, it could be worse, we could have been losing whilst watching the dire bullsh1t that Roy Hodgson was serving up for us
Hodgson would have come good for you, eventually. The problem there was that he was trying to institute a whole new system of play- one that was far more rigid and limited, essentially. But it is effective, as demonstrated at West Brom and Fulham. The whole system relied on the players buying into it and being more disciplined. If there hadn't been a figure like Dalglish hovering over, and if the clubs need to hang on to the senior players hadn't been so apparent (which gave them more influence than is conducive to an integrated team), it might have worked quicker. Kenny has come in and given the players a bit more freedom, but he is not actually building anything. He is not working toward a final system, as Roy was. Kenny needs individual quality to succeed, he is not going to build a team. This idea that you can win with two wingers and one big one small up front is no longer relevant. Successful teams now play with a back 7 and a fluid forward 4. The smaller teams are, on the whole, developing a more disciplined style of defence that can handle the rigid formations, it when they play teams like UTD, CITY and Spurs that they struggle because players are drifting and swapping positions. That's what makes Suarez so dangerous (if he could just put it in the net) but what makes Henderson, Carroll and Downing easier to contain. I think that it's a shame for Liverpool. I wrote quite extensively about this on the old 606. The club needs a cool head to take it forward. Yes the history of the club should be acknowledged and respected, but it should not dictate the future. Dalglish was a great player and he was a successful manager decades back but this is not his time. The cup success is not really progress, Liverpool have always done quite well in competitions. I personally, and I might be wrong, think that Kenny's pushing to become manager again (and lets be honest he was pushing) was principally a result of UTD coming to the point where they overtook the title record. It was personal, rather than professional. At this point the club needs someone professional to come in to build something new and create history, rather than re-live it.
This is what KENNY needs to do: 1. Admit his all-British policy hasn't worked. 2. Drop and sell Adam. The guy is a shower of ****, not even Championship fodder, hanging on to the coat tails of better players and winning a medal when he's done **** all to deserve it. 3. Drop Henderson until he picks up. 4. Play Carroll more. £35 mill doing diddly squat. 5. Show Suarez where the net is not where the bloody woodwork is. 6. Practise penalties! Our penalty-taking has been ****in' atrocious! 7. Buy quality in the summer and not wolves (not those wolves the other wolves) in sheep's clothing not masquerading as quality.
Not for one moment do I regret getting rid of Hodgson. We never expected anything from him, and boy we didn't get anything. Silkship's comment of 'eventually' is all right in hindsight, but if we'd kept Hodgson we might've been in the Championship by now The problem is we did expect a bit more with Kenny, and although we have the Carling Cup and Europa League next season, an improvement on last season very definitely, the PL has been a bloody disaster. It's no use denying otherwise. Working with what we've got is fine if we learn and improve with every game but we're not doing that. We're leaking goals now, and not scoring enough. Like we keep saying the dominance and the beautiful football is all very well...!
I see you agree on points 5 and 7. Not all bad, then. I understand about the FA rules, but is there any reason why we have to keep playing the poor British players EVERY week?
Lol no. Hogson's football is not going to get a team anywhere. It's fantastic for midtable and lower table teams wanting to remain the the premiership, gain stability maybe pick up the odd nosebleed from venturing up to 7th but it's not going to progress or win anything. Wait, so when City play with individually brilliant players ahead of a solid back 7, it's a system. When liverpool need individual quality to succeed ahead of their solid back 6 - sometimes 7 - we're not playing to a system? You've lost me and you clearly don't watch us play. Kuyt, named as a right winger on the sheet, never stays on the right wing. Downing never stays on the left. Suarez never stays in the middle. Gerrard does whatever the **** he wants. They rotate and are fluid - they just don't collectively have the same quality as Silva/Nasri/Aguero/etc.
