this racist coward called Liam Stacey please feel free to give him at least a damn good slapping. I am not knocking Swansea City or their supporters in any way, just this coward who comes from Pontypridd but is living in Swansea, what a ****er. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17434587
An idiot from the east living in Swansea as a student mmmm on topic hope this wil be a lesson to other trolls
I will if you go around Burnley & Oldham and give all the racist Asian locals a slap too aye, got to be consistent. What the f*ck has this got to do with football or Swansea City FC?
i've read the tweets, i read stan collymores tweets, and i believe he said something along the lines of 'muamba is dead lol' , is that racist? say he said 'puerta is dead lol' is that racist?
Wife beating drunk Stan Collymore thinks racist tweets are morally unacceptable! The moral police has spoken.
I will if you go around Bristol and sort these out, the only difference between Liam Stacey & this lot are that these are using physical threats! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWrvjtAet2c Excuse me mate but what are you doing coming on a Swansea City FC message board with that crap?
I will if you go around Bristol and sort these out, the only difference between Liam Stacey & this lot are that these are using physical threats! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWrvjtAet2c Excuse me mate but what do you think you're doing coming on a Swansea City FC football message board with that crap?
Not sure why you've posted this. The guy goes to uni here. So what? He'll be punished for his foolish actions. The law (and trust me I know) says you have committed an offence of inciting violence by posting this, even though I completely disagree with what this moron did.
There is something about this situation (commenting about this one since I have read the link above, but I am sure this situation is not isolated) that I find disconcerting and troubling from a different angle. This person has expressed a comment, all be it in a "public" forum, all be it offsensive to some, for which he is now being prosecuted. Living in a country where freedom of speech is constitutionally guaranteed, I find it troubling that such a prosection can take place. One of the downsides of freedom of speech is that, from time to time, speech that is offensive is uttered. This should not be a criminal act. Damages from speech resulting in complaints in a civil court are a different matter. Constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech does not protect against civil recourse only against criminal prosection. Crime is prosecuted by the State and the State should not be in the business of determining which elements of speech are acceptable or not acceptable, are criminal or not criminal. I admit I am ignorant about freedom of speech rights in the UK, but I find this whole situation troubling. There is either freedom of speech or there is not, I don't see how it can be a partial, sometimes, maybe sort of thing, legislated as criminal tomorrow but not today and vice versa. What exactly is the boundary that demarcates speech, or classes of speech, as offensive or not offensive. How does one parse a specific utterance to determine probable cause for arrest and prosecution - who arbitrates this boundary. Perhaps somebody could explain.
The Labour Government introduced legislation creating over 3,000 new offences during their time in power, YJ. Whether you agree with that or not they brought in homophobic and racist elements into public order offences, including incitement. Most would think this was probably right. It's my understanding that some of the comments were indeed racist. I cannot imagine he'd have been prosecuted otherwise, even in this politically correct mad world we live in. Making distasteful comments without more still isn't an offence.
The guy deserves everything coming to him. Freedom of speech doesnt give u the right to say what you like, why do you think there are so many defamation cases
Thanks KJ - I still find it all on the surface somewhat arbitrary. The guy claims he was under the influence of alchohol when he made his tweets. Since alchohol can "clearly" lead to criminal speech, maybe we should prempt the "obvious" by shutting down pubs and off-licenses so minimizing the amount of mind dibilitating beverages that people can consume. STID .... "Freedom of speech doesnt give u the right to say what you like, why do you think there are so many defamation cases" .... which is my point ... if there are material damages resulting from speech, any speech, damages for which a court can grant relief, then a complaint in a civil court between two parties is the way to address the issue not a criminal prosecution. Or put another way, you can say what you want, but you are responsible for the consequences. If all the people that were so offended by the tweet that they called the police, were in fact materially damaged by the speech, then they should all file civil complaints against the guy. I would think that that avalanche of legal action would do more to disuade truely damaging speech than anything else. Even if the complainants were aggregated into one class and awarded 1 pound each in damages it could result in a pretty hefty bill at the end of the day for the defendant.
Regardless of what Collymore or anyone else has said ,this scumbsg Stacey added a "Lol" at the end of his moronic tweet and although not technically racist it was a disgusting thing to do ..and yes he deserves a slap
But how many people went out of their way to be offended ? How many followers does this person have on twitter before, and how many after ? Really I am all for freedom of speech, and the principles behind stopping racism, but this seems to be do gooders doing the same thing with tv programmes when they complain, searching out the offending item then complaining when it offends their sensibilities. I am glad Muamba is doing ok and appears to be on the road to recovery though, and that is what is important here, not some witch hunt after a stupid person making himself look like an imbecile, lets just let the magistrates do what they must and leave it at that.
I do agree Valleyswan and i bet if it had been a white player there wouldn't be so much publicity over it, but the guy is a dickhead and deserves punishment and your right the courts should deal with it, but if i where to pass him in the street although i might stop myself from flattening him i'm not 100% convinced i'd intervene if someone else did,i'd like to think i would ,but in all honesty i'm not sure
I hope it serves as a lesson to the freaks on general chat, they seem to get away with posting much worse stuff on there.
thats my point bongo, people like stan collymore have highlighted the amount of racist and rubbish that people have to put up with up until now, so well done to him... he has suffered from depression and has retweeted things like 'go and hang yourself you worthless.....' and so on, what this stacey guy and people like that are trolls, so i am glad people cant hide behind a computer screen and think they can get away with anything
Liam Stacey, 21, from Pontypridd, south Wales, today pleaded guilty to a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence. I think racism is absolutely ******ed, but he has not been charged with racism. He has accepted and been charged with 'inciting violence'. In my opinion, he did not incite violence. Nothing was directed specifically at muamba, and he didn't suggest any type of violence towards him. If he had a decent lawyer, this would not have got to court. Trial by media and more specifically, the self promoting media whore that is Stan Collymore. As someone said earlier, this post is actually inciting violence. Will this person be arrested for inciting violence? Of course not, because no-one famous is monitoring these boards. All this tells me is that if I want to be offensive on a public forum, I should do it anonymously. And if I do get caught saying something that offends someone, just deny it. The guy is an idiot, but if prosecuted, it sets a dangerous precedent for internet law
But mate its already been set, what about those guys who have been jailed for about 4 years for posting on facebook about bringing the rioting to other areas, really bonkers if you ask me, purely idiotic behaviour yes, but is it really worth 4 years ? http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/16/uk-riots-four-years-disorder-facebook Purely using this as comparison, the above is in fact being being treated as more serious than manslaughter, how do they come close to compare ? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-16281868
