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Fabrice Muamba

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  1. Lloydinio

    Lloydinio Well-Known Member

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    Fabrice Muamba collapsed during the FA cup match between Bolton and Tottenham. He is said to be fighting for his life. The game is abandoned. He was being recusitated. My thoughts go to him and his family.
     
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    Lets hope he is ok and I am sure everyone will agree with your sentiments.
     
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    As much as we hate the Steptoes, there's a thread on their board where someone says that they've had trauma care training and it looks like he's had a fatal heart attack on the pitch. That person has also said that they hope they're wrong, as I think we all do.
     
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    <applause>

    Hoping he pulls through....
     
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  5. North North Watford

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    Devastating news.

    The impact of Gary Speed's death came close, but I don't think I've been this shocked about any piece of footballing news since word came through about Jimmy Davis (I put it gently because I really hope Muamba pulls through). Spookily, that was also on the day of a home game against Coventry.
     
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  6. yorkshirehornet

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    .... still waiting to hear....

    terrible situation....
     
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    Hornette_TID Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    first he was stable, now in a 'critical condition'..the 'family of football' has come together today...and all was put in perspective, especially for those that were there. Thoughts going Muamba's way, and for his family, his friends, his teammates, and all those wonderful medical people who helped him today. I feel for the Spurs fan who, it was said, helped him...though he denies it, saying he tried, but couldn't get to him. His poor twitter has been mobbed...

    anyway, let's just hope Muamba pulls through...
     
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  8. North North Watford

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    Obviously, first and foremost my thoughts are with Muamba and his nearest and dearest. Everything else comes second. But I'm actually quite disturbed that some media organisations have come out and claimed that he is stable, given that Bolton and the hospital haven't.

    If Muamba were stable in the opinion of the specialists, the hospital and Bolton would surely have moved quickly to say so. They haven't. The phrase "critical but stable condition" is used quite commonly, for life-threatening injuries where the patient has been stabilised for the time being, but they haven't said that either. This doesn't necessarily mean the worst will happen, or even that anything has gone wrong since he got to hospital, but it does mean that there isn't enough certainty for the hospital to be willing to give a public prognosis.

    Some pretty well known organisations have decided to claim that he is stable. If that turns out not to be true, just think about that. Are large sections of the media simply guessing on a matter of life or death about a specific, named person?
     
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  9. Hornette_TID

    Hornette_TID Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    i agree, his 'being stable' was all over twitter...i'm not sure how long that changed to him being in a critical condition. I was quite surprised to read it, after all the 'stable' tweets. i heard it on Sky just before 8pm that he was stable...i came back tonight and saw 'critical'..either his condition changed, or Sky were reporting it wrongly..why would they do that?
     
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  10. North North Watford

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    I listened to pretty much all of what should have been 5Live's 6 hour, 6 minute, Sport relief charity auction.

    Obviously that was replaced by discussion about this and related issues. Fair play to Mark Chapman specifically and the BBC generally for refraining from describing his condition as stable, because they must have been seeing the same reports we were. Chappers went out of his way to say that they would only give updates on his situation which had been officially given by sources such as the hospital or club.
     
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  11. Hornette_TID

    Hornette_TID Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    that's good. I was only watching SSN, who were reporting 'stable'..pretty much first i think. There's all sorts of twisted stories coming out of this, like the Spurs fan who is a 'cardiologist' (isn't) who ran onto the pitch and helped him and was a hero. He tweeted before that he didn't make it onto the pitch, and that he wished everyone would stop tweeting him!
     
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  12. Hornetty

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    I was reading the BBC live text until it ended at 9pm. It stated that they hadn't heard anything official from the hospital or Bolton since the previous update at 7.30pm and wouldn't comment on the situation until they did. However, on twitter and serveral other places online they were saying he was stable. I was inclined to believe the Beeb.
     
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    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I do hope that he comes through it alright. Not a good thing to witness when you go out to watch a game. Thank heavens the days of a trainer rushing on with nothing more than a cold wet sponge have disappeared.

    I have read a book by Jonathon Agnew where he states that because of the BBC guidelines they cannot report a story unless it comes from official sources and can be verified by two independents. He states that this means that they will know something is going on, but can say nothing, while other channels are free to say far more.
     
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  14. North North Watford

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    In cases of life and death of someone whose identity has already been revealed, every media organisation in the country should be bound by those rules.

    Public interest is often a justification for the press in particular flying close to the wind on things they reasonably believe to be true, but for which there isn't enough evidence to prove it as fact in court (for instance). But in this case, the overwhelming public interest is for whatever information we receive to be accurate.
     
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  15. Lloydinio

    Lloydinio Well-Known Member

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    I heard it all live on BBC London 94.9. It was pretty sickening, even on the radio. #pray for Muamba
     
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    I listened to the commentary on the drive home from yesterday's game. I hope he pulls through...everyone is willing it in their own way. It's certainly a timely reminder, if one were needed, of what's important. Keep fighting, young man...
     
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    Why re-post it then?
     
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