1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Its amazing....

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction, Mar 4, 2012.

  1. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    3,097
    Likes Received:
    33
    The German generals wanted a broad front landing but the German admirals were only willing to go along with a short front
     
    #81
  2. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    60,597
    Likes Received:
    18,264
    Now ye've went all ****in technical on me.
     
    #82
  3. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    Have I attracted the wrath of our resident supposedly athiest zionist once more?
     
    #83
  4. GroveRanger

    GroveRanger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2011
    Messages:
    14,600
    Likes Received:
    9,406
    Mitt Romney is a moron, I mean Mormon. Hang on......just checking Wiki......no, I was right first time.
     
    #84
  5. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    63,752
    Likes Received:
    13,027
    <laugh>

    Are they to be criticised for it?
     
    #85
  6. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    Are they to be applauded for it? Who needs enemies and all that
     
    #86

  7. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    63,752
    Likes Received:
    13,027
    You won't find many people who will mourn the death of a despot. How many shed a tear when Mussolini got strung up?

    Considering what his regime did to others I would suggest he got off lightly.
     
    #87
  8. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    In fairness im not really sure Gaddafi and Mussolini are comparable at the same level, also id be pretty sure their intervention in Libya was not motivated out of any compassion for the Libyan people and wanting to relieve them of this terrible leader who subsidised each family by thousands per child, subsidised a car per family, kept fuel prices below 6 pence a litre etc etc....
    Im pretty sure it was more to do with them not wanting Libya to press ahead and break the golden rule of oil trading, it has to be traded in dollars. Saddam tried this and look where he ended up, Iran is trying...... you see where I am going with this. A nice little perk as well was the removal of a long term political thorn in the side of America and its band of peeons, one by one as "rogue" states are removed, puppet governments are installed making it much easier for America to impose it's politial will on world politics. In fairness, while by no means saints themselves, the longer states like China, Russia, Venezuela, Iran etc.. continue to oppose the quasi-imperialistic behaviour of America good for them.
     
    #88
  9. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    63,752
    Likes Received:
    13,027
    Mussolini was loved by his people too...............for a while.

    I don't care if he was ousted because of Oil, all I know is it was the "correct" thing to do.

    And ...are China and Russia continuing to oppose the quasi-imperialistic behaviour of America.................................................... by refusing to clamp down on state sanctioned murder in Syria?
     
    #89
  10. Bik

    Bik Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yeah, the vast majority of Libyans were livid about that. <doh>
     
    #90
  11. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2010
    Messages:
    63,752
    Likes Received:
    13,027
    Syria refugees tell of Homs executions
    People fleeing Homs tell a BBC correspondent outside the Syrian city that security forces are committing atrocities, including summary executions.


    Thanks to Russia and China <ok>
     
    #91
  12. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    Haditha Killings

    whats your point, both are as bad as the other, its a case of choosing the lesser of two evils. America with its "war on terror" causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan and Israel killing thousands upon thousands of Palestinians since the inception of their apartheid enthrocratic state, i certainly can see who appear to be the greater evil
     
    #92
  13. Bik

    Bik Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Your arguments are childish. What's the point in pulling up unrelated events? You ignore what is in front of you to score cheap political points against Israel and the USA.

    Let me guess, you are 18 and studying politics at A level. <doh>
     
    #93
  14. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2011
    Messages:
    15,330
    Likes Received:
    1,106
    No hes irish and supports the IRA - therefor believes all western powers are the evil of the world.
     
    #94
  15. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    Whats unrelated? America's behaviour in the middle east, Israel's behaviour in the same region? Since the OP was focused on the American/Israeli alliance and their imperialistic behaviour in the region, in this instance Iran, I feel it is still very relevant
     
    #95
  16. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    also the comparing any middle-eastern despot with Mussolini really is inaccurate in the extreme. Mussolini was a fanatical imperialist who led his country into a hugely damaging war while following an even more fanatical imperialist.

    Gaddafi never really displayed these fanatical tendencies. Nor have Iran, in fact the only nation that displays anywhere near the same traits is .......... <insert answer> im sure you can guess
     
    #96
  17. Bik

    Bik Member

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2011
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Bullshit. You were meaninglessly trying to score points by dragging up an American war crime. It had **** all to do with anything. You are an apologist for two utterly repulsive regimes in Iran and Syria - down playing what they are up to and have been up to in the region for decades whilst happily focusing on what Israel and the USA have done. One doesn't ****in' negate the other, does it?
     
    #97
  18. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    96,328
    Likes Received:
    55,818
    Why does somebody that hates England support an English football team?
     
    #98
  19. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    11,691
    Likes Received:
    1,014
    How is it meaningless? Its a very recent event, and one I would be very surprised to learn was isolated. Dev seems determined to excuse American/Israeli behaviour in hte region, justifying it by actions rumoured to have been carried out by other "despots", but when I show evidence to incriminate America et al in engaging in the same brutal behaviour its somehow meaningless point scoring? Dont be ridiculous.

    You say Iran are repulsive, what have they actually done? I hear alot of rhetoric but not alot of fact
     
    #99
  20. ManDingo 20"/20"

    ManDingo 20"/20" MDMA Guru

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2011
    Messages:
    15,330
    Likes Received:
    1,106
    1 Thread 2 completely different thoughts on the matter - you talk some amount of ****e jacky.
     
    #100

Share This Page