I noticed that in the match against Napoli that some of our senior players performances was abysmal. It seems they just can't be asked to do anything for AVB. One of these players is Ashley Cole the amount of times I saw him just stand there and let Lavezzi run past him was incredible he just didn't want to track back/defend for the team. Also I think Cech could easily save some of the shots that fly in past him recently. But he just lets them in because he's against AVB. Hate to say this but even Drogba, Lampard and Essien aren't trying their best either and they are quality world class players. Is this a revolt from the senior players against AVB or am I looking too much into it. The only players that have played their best football are, Sturridge, Mata, Ramires, Ivanovic and David Luiz (attacking wise).
I was hoping being a C.L game that that would be enough to raise the performance levels, I was worng. However I think you're being far too harsh on Cech. He kept us in it early on with some good stops and could do nothing about any of the goals in my view. They were faults of Meireles, Ivan and Luiz respectively. Cole is playing poorly at the moment and obviously has issues with the manager as does Lampard. But Drogba has been as hot and cold as he has always been and Essien has only just come back from a long lay off so I don't think it is just down to the senior players. For instance I though Ramieres and Ivanovic had poor games in the week and Sturridge has gone off the boil a little of late too compared to his early season form. Basically there is a massive lack of confidence spreading through the squad at the moment and everyone is indivdually and collectively accountable.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...utiny-Ashley-Cole-heads-for-Chelsea-exit.html to be honest your chairman really lives up to the the tag of 'owner'...he thinks its his club..no,it is his club...he will do what he wants and i bet he tells himself and everyone else that all these mercenaries had no problems when they were offered high high wages...so now they better listen to him..i dont understand why fans cry when an 'owner' of a club tries to influence his club....hes probably a failed footballer in his own head....but luckily for him he can afford to buy a club...everyone reffered to Chelsea as his 'toy'..well that is what it is...one that has cost him millions...id probably be the same if id pulled a club out of the **** and paid off it's debts and then invested in it richly....yeah i might want to play manager too..or do you think hes supposed to think that this is against the ethics of the 'beautiful game'? or he probably realises how everyone else is a hypocrite and bloody ungrateful in this game.....none of these idiots had a problem joining..and AVB had no problem when Abramovich laid out 28 million just to get him in...and now the players act like ****hers and the fans complain...but what do you expect from someone who owns the club and has a past of 'dont giv a fuk' it's how he made his money in first place...from what you prospered...
they dont want to play for your club Drogs. they are acting childish...they are undermining the manager...therefore the owner who invested heavily in the manager...theres always a root to a problem...id be bloody livid paying these idiots a wage and they think they can run my club like they own the damn thing....thats my point Drogs.....im trying to stick to the question posed by the OP...and the answer should have nothing to do with tactics...because no matter what formation..it gives these fools no right to form factions etc at the club..and Mr Abramovich's club at that? they should be glad that they not in Russia or something or they would have retired long ago due to some strange 'accidents'
I agree, our legends need to move on so we can bring fresh blood through the ranks. I'm all for AVB's long term plan but at the moment he's not showing the man managment and authority to succeed in the mean time.
you cant compare the English Premier League to the Portugese league.... you cant compare AVB to Mourinhio..... and i think your chairman will back AVB..because of his pride and he wants to prove alot of people..dare i say it even mourinhio wrong..by giving AVB all the help he can get in order to suceed....money is not an issue,pride is everything for Roman...but at the same time he feels as though hes been taken piss out of by certain people and so is turning up to training etc..i respect that..even though you might think it is disruptive.
QPR fan in peace - with AVB having to basically rebuild an aging chelsea side, i do wonder whether a year out of eurpoean football will help shift some of the players that appear to be classed as "dead wood". I read in the fail today, of some of the players he has brought in, they are all youngsters (well mid twenties is young to me these day) and apart from lampard having a "loyalty" bonus written into his contract and wanting to stay, i just wonder whether there is a case for the others staying?
Terry has to stay. Club captain, can still cut it and is Mr Chelsea as they say. The rest are all up for debate. Lampard can still do a fine job but has to accept that his place in the 11 is dependant on performances not reputation. Drogba and Cole's days could well be numbered, Anelka and Alex have already gone.
You sure got this right!!! Exactly how many of us feel. RA should demand respect from these players, especially since is seems he has had enough of their moaning and sulking. The best way for them to show respect (and a large slice of gratitude wouldn't go astray either ), is to play to the best of their abilities. They all have some future in the game, but not collectively, and not at our club any longer. Best for everyone, themselves included ,if they realise this, and start acting like the extremely well payed "professionals" they claim to be.
Well when we look at the squad and the oldies then we can state the obvious Petr Cech - Still a world class goalkeeper and isnt being protected John Terry - the loss of team form came from Terry being absent and the guy is still an inspiration on the pitch Thats the only two I would keep, now onto the rest Jose Bosingwa - The guys an unreliable right back and even at left back that cant be permanent Ashley Cole - Guys form has dipped impeccably, giving up against Napoli half the game and failure to track back left Luiz unable to deal with the ball for the third goal, Madrid wanted him last summer, could have sold him and took Coentrao from benfica, would have been better all round and his attitude is awful at the moment, bye Ash. Michael Essien - The guy is a legend, an absolute beast, but his constant long term injuries have ruined his running ability whihc was his biggest asset and Ramires seems to have that role now of box to box, hate to see him go but that might be best for not just Chelsea but also Oriol Romeu who is being blocked big time by the aging squad Frank Lampard - Mr consistent, consistent goalscorer, consistently injury free, consistently a team leader. We cant really say that anymore about the guy, probably the guy who was backing Cole to speak out. He will like Cole have one more year left on his contract, maybe its time to cash in John Obi Mikel - Not as assured as Romeu and not as attack minded as we need, discipline dissapears and should be moved on also as Chalobah and Mceachran start to progress Florent Malouda - Abysmal, his lack of chemistry or ability to form any with Torres is shocking, the guy actually tried when Drogba was on and not Torres. Does my head in. Needs to go and probably will Didier Drogba - Been a great asset down the years, especially when on form, but that comes in less and less moments this season. Like Anelka should go just to give Lukaku some game time Salomon Kalou - The last of my pics to leave by the only reason the guy wants to start and is terrible when starting. Only a bit part player and leaving should give Piazon his chance as the guy has been awesome in the reserves Only 3 more players wil be mentioned and thats Hilario, Ferreira (Both to coaching staff especially Paulo) and Meireles who im not completely convinced of since he arrived but am willing to give a chance All together thats 10 yes 10 players out and heres a couple whose replacements are ready Hilario to be replaced with Thibaut Courtois - the guy has been magnificent and it might be wise to promote him now rather than a season later Ryan Bertrand to replace Paulo Ferreira - simple swap but feel we might need a fullback than can play both sides as well Josh Mceachran to replace John Obi Mikel - the guy has great passing and technical ability and would be a great replacement for Mikel Lucas Piazon, Romelu Lukaku and Kevin De Bruyne to replace Salomon Kalou and Florent Malouda - Like Courtois, De Bruyne would be better off joining in the summer and getting into it now and settling for the next year before staking a claim for a place Thats 6 players we already have replacing 5 on the possible out list We now have Essien, Lampard, Cole, Bosingwa and Drogba left to replace with 4 new signings of hopefully world class quality in the squad A pacey left back - Jordi Alba would be my pick and being part of Velencia with Mata the last few years could help us nab the exciting left back A Creative CM, A DM whose main goal is to defend & Either a Right back or Centre back - to take the place Brana doesnt want to play, Brana at RB would be ideal and to cover all three positions (CAM,CDM and CB) it could be worth taking both Jan Vertonghen and Christian Eriksen from Ajax in a double deal and give us the youth and experience balance we need regardless of the european cup we qualify for next year A striker or winger that can be devastating on his own or on the break - I for one love Edinson Cavani but the price might be too big so anyone in the ilk of this guy would be brilliant Now the last 4 players can be open to suggestion and thats just my picks and I understand a mass overhaul like that is very unlikely My hopeful squad for 12/13 Players in italics are my picks Goalkeepers : Petr Cech, Thibaut Courtois and Ross Turnbull (With Jamal Blackman getting a decent run in the reserves) Defence : Branislav Ivanovic, David Luiz, John Terry, Gary Cahill, Jan Vertonghen, Ryan Bertrand, Jordi Alba Midfield : Oriol Romeu , Josh Mceachran, Ramires, Christian Eriksen, Raul Meireles, Juan Mata, Lucas Piazon Attack: Fernando Torres, Romelu Lukaku, Edinson Cavani, Kevin De Bruyne, Daniel Sturridge So far thats a squad of 22 with 6 British players and at least 7 under 21 players. Now the squad could do with 2 more experienced heads especially in the midfield and that is also open to suggestion
My view of Malouda has increased since the Napoli game, but not much. I think Cole will be out in summer. I can't see him staying.
Certain players cannot get to grips with a change of playing style, that AVB is committed to in order to win trophies with flair. Cole is particularly narked with this and shows his displeasure on and off the pitch! Lamps is not comfortable with it but although unhappy is more adult with his response.I think we have to accept that these 2 although they have a lot of seniority in the squad are virtually at the end of their Chelsea careers and for the good of everyone should be parked until they leave!
The problem for AVB is he is obviously trying to move on lot of the older players at your club. But in the mean time he needs those same players to perform for him to give him the chance to get rid of them in the summer. Its a very strange situation to be in. Im a big fan of AVB by the way, and think he will prove to be a world class manager. The problem is there are too many chiefs at your club who think they know it all, Drogba, Terry, Lampard etc..
Blimey JCC87--that was a very in depth analysis!!! That would be a days work for me! How long did it take you? PS Agreed with a lot of it , but being an oldie , haven't heard of all your proposed foreign imports!
