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Forgive the pun but, this one could go either way

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Steven Royston O'Neill, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    For an informed answer, ask Chappaz...<whistle>
     
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  2. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    In an ideal world I would want all children to be brought up in the traditional family, however, the ideal world is become less and less, I myself was divorced and my son stayed with me, we were very, very close. I then met wife number two and we had the perfect family, man, woman, boy, girl.

    Girl moved back to grandparents, son moved out to grandmother, husband and wife divorced. If I could do it all over again, big word if, I would have divorced wife 1, never married wife 2 and been a single parent family, my son and I, if, if, if.
     
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  3. dansafcman

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    I think that the only thing it is likely to "influence" is that he (or she) might be more inclined to experiment and/or be accepting of homosexuals, as they wont see homosexuality as something to be ashamed about (which is more and more the case in "modern" times anyway) so they will think "why not try it"? if they are 100% straight (applying the theory of a sliding scale, where a true bisexual is 50% either way), then they still wont want to try it imo as it just wont do anything for them. That's why i have never experimented cos the idea of kissing another man just does nothing for me, and i consider myself to be 100% straight (or at least above the threshold which would make someone inclined to experiment).

    if you consider (homo)sexuality as just what turns you on or not (which I do), then if the parents sexuality influences the kids sexuality in anyway then you would expect parents who are into BDSM would raise a kid who was into BDSM - but I dont think this is the case, you are either into whips and chains or not. what your parents do does not influence your own turn-ons.

    The kid will also*see that the majority of couples are heterosexual outside his/her family home, so wont be indoctrinated into thinking heterosexuals are not normal and homosexuals are. They might see it (homosexuality) as normal in the sense that they wont think there is anything wrong with it, but not that it what the majority of people are.


    I think Mr RAW has a better point in the fact that a kid brought up by a homosexual couple will miss not having one of the major role models, however there are plenty of single parents who manage to raise perfectly "normal" kids (I dont like the word normal, cos who the **** has the right to define what normal is?) without having the father/mother figure present in the kids life. Having a close Uncle/Aunt etc would help compensate imo.
     
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  4. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Sorry mate bad example, I can't see parents who practice BDSM inviting their children to watch.
    And if they did the kids should be removed immediately.


    You yourself have said, they may be inclined to experiment with homosexuality after being exposed to it on a daily basis.
    So pretty much what I'm saying.
    The difference is, I don't think it is normal behaviour.

    The thought of sex with another man makes me feel physically sick.
    They want to do it in private, fine, just don't try and force people to have to accept it.
     
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  5. dansafcman

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    ok, so maybe a bad example, but you know what I meant and I guess understood the point i was trying to put across.

    question: you keep saying "him" or 2 men etc. How do you react with 2 lesbians kissing, or 2 women having sex? does that make you phyically sick?

    as for experimentation: I meant they be more inclined to give into whatever curiosity they would have anyway, rather than trying to hide it cos they see it as "not normal" and shameful. i dont think it (living with 2 gay (wo)men) would add to whatever they felt, they would just be less embaressed/ashamed about it.

    I just cant imagine having to grow up feeling ashamed of whatever feelings you have (when between consenting people), just because of what society thinks of as normal / not normal behaviour. It must be horrible.

    personally 2 men together doesnt make me "sick" but it doesnt do anything for me either. i am happy if my the gay people I know kiss in front of me, but anything else should be in private, but that is the same for heterosexuals as well. I also expect them to respect my sexulality, and wouldnt want them to make a pass at me but they are also entitled to my respect as well.

    btw, 2 women together doesnt make me "sick", but it does have another effect on me -but its always a better fantasy if they are bi-sexual :wink: .
     
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  6. goonercymraeg

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    My late brother was gay but my wife and i always said that if anything had happend to us we would prefer him to bring our daughter up rather than complete strangers
     
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  7. Steven Royston O'Neill

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    and why not
     
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    Syd, taken me a while to answer this. Some 35 years ago, I was acting in a civilian role for the M.O.D. I was sent up to western Scotland to sort out a "little problem there". So, I found myself on the famous west coast train to Fort William, well-known to grouse shooters, and now very sadly discontinued.

    On this train, I got talking to an old geezer, a life-long queen. I said how difficult it must have been during the illegal years - and got the shock of my life : "Ow, now, now, now, it was so much better then. We were such a clarsey bunch. Once it became legal, it all became a little tatty you Know. In the old days, you could feck anyone without strings, old boy. But once it became legal, what they called 'gays' began to want stable relationships and boring stuff like that! It was much less fun. I absolutely abh-o-r that word 'gay', you know. Much prefer 'queer' old boy".

    It turns out he'd been an honorary member of a Guards club in London. Apparently, they were welcome there providing they sat at the bar and wore white trousers so everyone knew why they were there and could be approached! He'd also been a bit of a favourite on Hampstead Heath.

    I've never had any strong feelings about gays one way or the other. But I've got to say that was one of the most interesting conversations of my whole life. Surprising just how many inaccurate pre-conceived ideas I'd had.
     
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  9. Billy Death

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    Once I found out what lesbians did I wanted to be one. <whistle>
     
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  10. cuteybuns

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    Ha! I like that.
     
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