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Discussion in 'Watford' started by geitungur akureyrar, Feb 6, 2012.

  1. Roger68

    Roger68 Active Member

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    Calm down on the play-off predictions! Look at the season on groups of 5 games at a time. So far each group of 5 games had yielded 3, 7,6,8 and 6 points with 6 from the current group with the Notts Forest game to go. We can reasonably expect another 20 points from the 16 games remaining after that, without being sure which games will provide them. That is enough for survival, but we do not have the creativity of firepower to aspire to more. That is "job done" for Dyche, and his instructions for the next season will be the same. By the sale of Sordell, Bassini has ensured that he can meet the next installment of the bonds , and must hope to do the same next year by the sale of Marriapa. That will take us two more years into the "Bassini plan" of creating a debt free Championship club, which might be attractive to a new owner. Hopefully.
     
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  2. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    We have four points not in the way I saw them arrive though.
     
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  3. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    As things lie Coventry need five wins to catch us and Doncaster Rovers five wins and one draw. This does not count goal difference so we could be bottom of the league by match 36, this is never going to happen.
     
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  4. archaeologisthornet

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    we are now closer to the playoffs than relegation, in terms of points surely we should start looking up
     
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  5. Charlie Livesey was my hero

    Charlie Livesey was my hero Well-Known Member

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    Exactly how I feel however my Mum used to say "Never let the Devil know what you are thinking"
     
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  6. yorkshirehornet

    yorkshirehornet Well-Known Member

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    Onwards and upwards......


    Things are so much better than i would have thought.....
     
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  7. Hornette_TID

    Hornette_TID Well-Known Member
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    Indeed Yorkie, my feelings exactly. None of us expected much this season...last night confirmed..we have no reason to be looking behind us anymore...onwards and upwards is the way to go :)
     
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  8. Bolton's Boots

    Bolton's Boots Well-Known Member

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    I think that if we first of all look at the fixture list, we'll have a better idea! I really don't expect us to get more than 3 points out of the next 12 - which may see us drop down again from the giddy heights of 15th. For the 15 on offer after that, I'd be surprised if we get less than 10 - more likely to get 12.

    Beyond that, I really don't care - I doubt we'd have any chance of reaching the play-offs at all & would rather we steered clear of them anyway - we're simply nowhere near ready for that.
     
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  9. wear_yellow

    wear_yellow Well-Known Member

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    I'm with you Yorkie & H - we always knew this would be a very difficult season with a new manager, a new owner, players being sold and little of the money being made available to invest in new players. But what have we seen? A manager learning and growing with every game who clearly has the whole squad and club behind him. An owner who so far as delivered a few things and has not damaged the club (as a lot of us feared) - I saw him walking through the Legends Lounge after the game last night talking to the the staff and spend a few minutes with Don (Sticks) before walking across the pitch to spend time with the players. Yes we have sold players, but with the addition of another striker, I think we will be a competent Championship team. Are are unlikely to challenge consistently enough for a play-off place, but we can be a good mid-table club at the moment, and I for one will happily take that.
     
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  10. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    Play-offs would be some extra money. I think the premiership would be a dangerous place for us if we were lucky to get there.

    Will will not so no worry there.
     
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  11. archaeologisthornet

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    I'm not saying we should be looking at the playoffs, I agree that we are not ready for that. However I feel that there is just as little chance of relegation and instead of worrying about how many points we need to avoid relegation. Instead we should be looking to finish strongly and of possible better our league standing from last year and with games against teams such as Palace, Derby and Leeds who are all not far above us still to come, we should be looking to take points off of these teams.
     
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  12. Bolton's Boots

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    Derby and Leeds, yes - they are in that group of five games coming up from which I think we will win four (probably lose at Coventry!). Can't honestly see us getting anything at Palace, nor from the WHam and Saints games - should beat Burnley though.

    We also have a particularly tough April coming up - didn't want to dwell on that as I really don't expect much from those games either. :(
     
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  13. zen guerrilla

    zen guerrilla Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't it be nice to get the money from a play-off final and lose, so we are not ravaged by the desire to stay in the greed is good league, but to beat Cardiff City in the semi-final.

    <doh> just seen Ak put something similar earlier.
     
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  14. zen guerrilla

    zen guerrilla Well-Known Member

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    Between now and the end of the season there are 18 matches involving Watford and all the clubs below them playing each other. Millwall are involved in six, and they are playing away in all of them. Best placed is Nottm Forest who have four games at home. Coventry have four home games and two away. Obvoiusly Watford to win, but are we best served by all the rest finishing as draws.

    I think I have all the games:
    25-Feb Doncaster Rovers v Peterborough United
    06-Mar Nottingham Forest v Doncaster Rovers
    06-Mar Peterborough United v Millwall
    10-Mar Nottingham Forest v Millwall
    17-Mar Portsmouth v Bristol City
    17-Mar Watford v Coventry City
    20-Mar Bristol City v Watford
    20-Mar Doncaster Rovers v Millwall
    24-Mar Coventry City v Portsmouth
    07-Apr Coventry City v Peterborough United
    07-Apr Nottingham Forest v Bristol City
    09-Apr Bristol City v Coventry City
    10-Apr Portsmouth v Millwall
    14-Apr Doncaster Povers v Millwall
    17-Apr Coventry City v Millwall
    21-Apr Coventry City v Doncaster Rovers
    21-Apr Peterborough United v Watford
    28-Apr Nottingham Forest v Portsmouth
     
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  15. Jsybarry

    Jsybarry Well-Known Member

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    I've got a colleague who supports Norwich and he thinks we'll be in the same division next season.
     
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  16. archaeologisthornet

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    Is he expecting them to have a very bad end to the season then
     
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  17. geitungur akureyrar

    geitungur akureyrar Well-Known Member

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    We are back on the road for 56 points. Gaining one point against West Ham United makes up for losing the point I thought we would get playing against Southampton.
     
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  18. Jsybarry

    Jsybarry Well-Known Member

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    Apologies for the late response. I think you know how I meant it, but just to clarify, he was referring purely to the 'Orns - he doesn't like to make predictions about his own team.
     
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  19. Charlie Livesey was my hero

    Charlie Livesey was my hero Well-Known Member

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    I see we are 3 points ahead of your original posting Ak so on your predictions we would get to 59 points. Surely of the four defeats you've got us down for we could pick up 3 more points to make 62 points for the season and SD will have topped MM's 61 from last year.

    Come on you 'ORNS <rofl>
     
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  20. Chris 13

    Chris 13 Well-Known Member

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    Only 2 correct predictions so far since you started this thread - how is it you are doing so well in the predictions league?!! :))
     
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