I know we are sick of talking about it, but.......

You're saying its quite acceptable to pick on a random section of society and treat them abusively, simply because the only thing that doesn't get mentioned is the colour of their skin?

We're working to stamp out such discriminatory behaviour towards other groups - sexism, homophobia and racism are the main targets, but according to you, being intentionally offensive towards someone for being fat or ginger is completely acceptable?

Why? Justify why a gay person or a jew or a black person is deserving of more protection in the eyes of society than a ginger? Or for that matter a 'dumb' blonde?

 

Abuse is abuse whatever the basis for it. There is no graduation of abuse relating to its basis. Therefore racial abuse is, in itself, no worse than any other abuse.

We are in grave danger o crossing the line between being offended and being abused - the 2 are very different things.

 

This ...

 

Dumb scousers... won't even bother gracing this cesspool board again. Stupid thickos comparing apples and oranges thinking it somehow exonerates Suarez. Such scum. No wonder most people don't respect how Liverpool handled this incident. I am not justifying discrimination of any kind, but to try and deviate from the main issue by making pointless analogies shows are thick your lot really are.

One was clearly offended and reported it and the other wasn't offended and didn't report it. Not hard to decipher unless of course you're a Liverpool supporter.

Have fun.

 

When people have been discriminated against, enslaved and/or killed for centuries for being fat or ginger, then you can compare the two.
Until then, I think that most people would agree that racial abuse is far worse than ginger abuse.

You're not this bloke, are you?

[video=youtube;CbuYb6lLHX8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbuYb6lLHX8[/video]

 

Jog on then ****a

 

They sat that ignorance is bliss. KuntaKinte appears to be the personification of the saying. Oh well, you can't put in what God left out

 

'Bye, then.

 

Sorry but racism leads to attacks, verbal and physical...it leads to aparthied and the holocaust and ethnic clensing....
I may be wrong but there has never been apathied against ginger people or fat people.
The holocaust targeted jewsish people, gays, gypsies, disabled people....not people with ginger hair or fat people.
I aint getting into the suarez problem but seriously this is just getting embaressing...the signs used to say no blacks, no irish, no dogs....ginger and fat people were NOT on the list....the BNP and other svum dont campaign against ginger or fat people....so please stop equating personal rudeness with this ...

 

The reference to ginger and fat people was made in relation to the fact that there were many grounds upon which a person can be abused. You have listed groups that have been abused that are not race dependant. The argument is that abuse cannot be graded. Hence racial abuse is no worse than any other.

We are proud to call ourselves Scousers. Now that is not an racial or religious descriptor and yet it is commonly used by people from outside of Liverpool in a dregatory and abusive way - with impunity. Is that right? Should that not be tackled?

 

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So a sensible response is sanctimonious....any other response is wumming...talk about wanting your cake and eating it!
And your link doesnt challenge what I wrote...would wish that on anyone or their family...I never said it was ok nor did I say it didnt matter...I simply gave a well thought out answer...feel free to disagree but at least put up a sensible response.

As for abuse....its horrible to be on the recieving end of it...discrimination on the grounds of being a different race, sex or sexuality or on disability can and does lead to extremes such as the holocaust, ethnic clensing, the holocaust and murders.
Thats why they are different....the question was about the difference beween racism etc and being anti ginger....and I gave an answer...a santimonious one but an answer none the less

 

My point was not that racism is worse than all other forms abuse....thats why i mentioned gypsies disabled people etc....my point is that racism is way worse than anti ginger comments cos of where it can and does lead to.

As for the anti scouse stuff...its wrong ... Similar to the anti cockney stuff but it aint the same in my opinion

 

No; you are confusing historical events perpetrated against certain people or groups of people based on the colour of their skin or name of their god which we as a society learnt from & introduced laws to prevent any similar recurrence. Giving these previous targets of abuse a higher weight of sympathy today over other victims of similar modern abuse shows you have a complete misunderstanding of why we created the laws in the first place.

We now recognise that before a black man or Jew was murdered they were called names; dehumanised, physically abused etc. the law was brought in to to stop the slope to genocide at the verbal abuse stage.

Which means; now, calling someone ginger or fat & abusing them because of it should be treated with equal concern by society because we know from the history where it can possibly lead but should not be seen as less just because it has yet to lead there.

You are in fact creating the same kind of sliding scale of abuse or humanity that the nazis did. Abuse always has a sliding scale justification...

 

So markin someone cos they got black skin and markin someone cos they got red hair, a difference, ? no, fk man you are a complete fkwad, how on gods earth are you a mod on the spuds board


It may not be classed as racism but it is no different, singling out someone different.

 

Doh the Irony you dont even get

 

So calling somebody a rude name is the same as ethnic cleansing? such a sanctimonious tosser!

 

I started this thread with a link to an article that highlighted the media's different ways of reporting on two cases of alleged racial discrimination, and also to highlight most peoples perception of the Suarez case, due to the facts(or non- facts really) fed to them by the media. A lot of the replies on this thread actually prove the point, and as someone said earlier, ignorance is bliss, so a lot of people go on ignorantly believing what they are told, instead of actually reading the facts, and making their own minds up. Now whether you believe Suarez is a racist, or not, I believe actually reading the report, would help you make an informed decision.

 

I clearly have not said that calling someone a rude name is the sameas ethnic clensing...
You need to re read what i said...i said calling someone ginger or fat is rude and unpleasant but racism can and does lead to aparthied and etnic clensing therefore racism is not the same as being anti ginger...
Before you act so ignorantly read properly before you respond to whats written...you will be less likely tio make a twat of yourself.

 

It's entirely different and you really should stop crying about me being a mod.
You embarrassed yourself. Get over it.