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Pards for England?

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by GeordieAJ, Feb 8, 2012.

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  1. HOADIE_BOI

    HOADIE_BOI Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he will get the job and I doubt he will leave for Tottenham because if he is going to turn down the England job then he would not leave for Tottenham, personally I think if Redknapp gets the England job which is like 98% chance, then it could be Jose for the Spurs if he leaves Real Madrid or they will go for Hughton, Moyes or maybe even Ian Holloway, he is a good manager so he could have a chance.
     
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  2. Marvo

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    Drawing against Switzerland and Montenegro at Wembley brings it down from being 'exceptional'. As for the WC10 qualifying, yes, they were great then, but the team was full of players who'd been embarrassed by not qualifying for Euro '08 and had something to prove - Any half decent manager would have got similar results.

    Could be done, but I think a lot of the teams competing for the cup would be unhappy with that. There is currently a divide between football clubs and the national team, and that needs to be addressed.

    The problem is that he'd taken too long to blood them, as shown by the fact he brought James, Heskey and Carragher to the World Cup, and wanted to bring Scholes. At that WC he was a guy with no new ideas, so relied players who were well past their prime. There's also a big question raised by taking Ledley King, who, as everybody knows, is not healthy.

    Perhaps there are fewer 'bad' teams now, but Algeria and Slovenia are still miles away from were England should be (based on the players available). Rooney is often 'off his game', so the question needs to be asked why Capello still relies on him and hesitated to give other strikers a real chance for the team, not just at the WC but throughout his entire tenure. If Rooney was fit, Rooney played, regardless of his form. Again, it's another example of a guy who has no ideas whatsoever.

    I'm not saying the players should be absolved of blame at all, but ultimately Capello is the one who chose the squad and the teams. It is his job to motivate them and get the strategy right, and he failed both of those responsibilities.

    Taking the captaincy away from Terry was the only choice. You can't have a guy going into court for something like racism leading your country into a major tournament. It's not just a football issue, but a political issue as for a lot of people the national team represents the country.
     
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  3. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Motivation is no problem for Capello. He has a 67% win ratio, the best of any England manager in modern history. So we'll have to agree to disagree on his qualification record.

    He couldn't blood the young players any quicker, they weren't ready for 2010. We have to accept we had a poor pool in 2010. We now have some talent coming through who he was getting ready for 2014. Cleverley, Wiltshire, Sturridge, Walker, Smalling, Jones, Welbeck, Gibbs have all been introduced. They are just about ready on the whole and he has timed it nicely for them to get a taste this time following on from the 21's, to be experienced and peaking for 2014. We have to be patient, we're progressing, the technical players are coming. Are they as good as their Spanish counterparts of the same age? Maybe not but the gap has closed. Brooking has worked hard for Capello and is the beacon of hope at the FA. He accepts we're miles behind as shown by we had 20,000 less UEFA qualified coaches than Spain, Germany and Holland at the time of 2010.

    They should never have got involved in the captaincy. This is evidenced by the support for Capello's stance by the games leading managers. Their opinion carries more weight than some old fart at the FA. They had three better choices. One delay the court case and let the manager pick him if he wished. At a push you could say they could have made him unavailable for selection altogether. But the reality is this should have been pushed through the courts by everyone (FA, Terry, Chelsea, courts) so an informed decision could be made. Its farcical. We have an american boxer who has been actually convicted of beating his wife able to delay a prison sentence for the sake of his and the states bank balances, yet we can't push this through for the sake of game.

    The issue of the winter break does need sorted out. But not by talking to the clubs, it needs direct action from a strong FA to dictate what happens in tournament years. They're too afraid of the big clubs though. Well **** them I want a national team ready to go to war rather than limping into major tournaments. They're weak and its holding us back. They can let Man U skip a FA Cup but can't re-jig the tournaments and include a break for the sake of our national game.

    Rooney is tough one but you have to remember he was unbelievable in qualifying (9 in 9) so you've built your team around him. He is world class and one of the few we have of that ilk.
     
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  4. HOADIE_BOI

    HOADIE_BOI Well-Known Member

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    Our problem was that we just failed on the big games, e.g. Germany and any team who had quality, many of them wins come against countries you expect to win against.
     
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  5. All Hail Ben Arfa

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    Good point, mate.
     
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    just saw Pard's comment's on his name being mentioned in the contenders for the England job(not that he expects to get it).

    He said he's got an unfinished project at Newcastle and is going to see it through,he also said how amazing the Toon support is.

    Lad's you've got a good'un there and if we dont get 4th i hope the Toon do.

    Howay the lads.
     
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  7. Rafa's Championship Party

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    Afraid to say I think Chelsea will get 4th place, we'll be 7th.
     
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  8. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Lampard will be the undroppable midfielder with 'Arry in charge. Nephew and all that
     
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  9. mag la rue

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    They say he has a release clause in his contract... Lower... Lower than that...

    Think if it is Redknapp Spurs will demand he stays until the summer to ensure CL qualification. Then they can lure a big continental coach. Maybe not as big as Mourinho though it depends how far Spurs push the Manchester clubs and what arrangements are made wrt Modric, Bale and spending money.
     
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