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It could work, but they would have to change the League system totally. Instead of PL/Championship/League 1/League 2 it would have to be something like, NW/SW/NE/Midlands etc or just 1a 1b 1c 1d to make it fair.

The problem is we have far to many professional teams for it to work, you would have to cut it from 92 teams to 32-46. Not going to go through every team here, but something like.

1a will have

Man u
Blackburn
Preston
Tranmere

1b
Sunderland
Bolton
Portsmouth
Leyton Orient

etc etc so the smaller teams have a chance, then the top teams go through to the knockout stages, and the bottom teams of each division, get relegated (so its a 2 tier system with 2a 2b 2c as well) and the top team from 2a goes into 1a.

You also dont just play teams from your division, but its a 30 game season + a cup competion after that.

Pros: The cash would be spread a lot more evenly, we still have relegation.

Cons: No promotion, doing it like the yanks, will never see the light of day.
 
blackcatsteve said:
It could work, but they would have to change the League system totally. Instead of PL/Championship/League 1/League 2 it would have to be something like, NW/SW/NE/Midlands etc or just 1a 1b 1c 1d to make it fair.

The problem is we have far to many professional teams for it to work, you would have to cut it from 92 teams to 32-46. Not going to go through every team here, but something like.

1a will have

Man u
Blackburn
Preston
Tranmere

1b
Sunderland
Bolton
Portsmouth
Leyton Orient

etc etc so the smaller teams have a chance, then the top teams go through to the knockout stages, and the bottom teams of each division, get relegated (so its a 2 tier system with 2a 2b 2c as well) and the top team from 2a goes into 1a.

You also dont just play teams from your division, but its a 30 game season + a cup competion after that.

Pros: The cash would be spread a lot more evenly, we still have relegation.

Cons: No promotion, doing it like the yanks, will never see the light of day.
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so basically ruin football as we no it for no goodreason
 
Colly NUFC said:
I'd say there's a difference between dabbling and it being the second most popular sport in the country, unless we dabble in cricket and rugby? There's a basketball arena 50 yards from the Nou Camp.

Back on topic, playoffs are awful. You've been consistently the best team for 38 games? Sod that, wipe out your points tally and get ready to play Bolton in a cup game!

Edit: great minds eh Fred?
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or fools seldom differ
 
Why would that ruin football?

It would make it so the top clubs dont have it all their own way year after year, and teams like Leyton Orient can get a fair share of the TV money.

If anything, it will revitalise it.

But it will never happen anyway,
 
MrToontastic said:
Well Cricket is hardly a World Sport is it, only 10 nations play the original form of the game and the same goes for rugby only 12 or so are regulars in world competitions.

World sports imo Football, F1 Racing, Boxing and then to a smaller extent Athletics and Tennis. There may be one or two I've missed
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F1 Racing's claim is very debatable. It is strictly a rich nations sport. I don't think you'll find many teams, or races, in Togo, etc
 
blackcatsteve said:
Why would that ruin football?

It would make it so the top clubs dont have it all their own way year after year, and teams like Leyton Orient can get a fair share of the TV money.

If anything, it will revitalise it.

But it will never happen anyway,
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In North American sports, as soon as you know who is in the play offs, the season is effectively over. those in the play offs don't care about the rest of the league games. Neither do those not in the play offs. there's usually a couple of teams battling for the last play off place, but for the rest of the league the season is effectively over.

In the Prem, there are only about 4 or 5 teams who are going into the last game of the season without either wanting to secure first place, secure a Europa/Champions League spot, or looking over their shoulder at relegation. Every game counts, and counts equally
 
If people were losing interest in our national sport and it needed to be fixed I could understand it. But it is more popular than ever. I loathe the idea of play offs, absolutely loathe. it is a ****e idea and completely unneccessary. I'd put it in the same category as no games ending in a draw like they used to (still might) in some countries. Or the Americans trying to change the "scoring" zones early doors. Just stupid ideas. I cannot see anything good worthwhile in play offs bar a bit of extra money be generated for the fat cats.
 
Freddd said:
F1 Racing's claim is very debatable. It is strictly a rich nations sport. I don't think you'll find many teams, or races, in Togo, etc
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There's more nations playing handball than F1, major sport moneywise due to the car companies involved but that's about it.
 
I've a better idea!! Why not have a 39th Premier League game!!! Lets have a round of fixtures, chosen at random, and play it at venues from all around the world........like the middle of the desert in Abu Dhabi, or on top of a skyscraper in Indonesia!!!!
 
MrToontastic said:
Well Cricket is hardly a World Sport is it, only 10 nations play the original form of the game and the same goes for rugby only 12 or so are regulars in world competitions.

World sports imo Football, F1 Racing, Boxing and then to a smaller extent Athletics and Tennis. There may be one or two I've missed
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MMA is also the fastest growing sport int he world. It's a hell of a lot more competitive that that joke of a 'sport', boxing.
 
Theoski09 said:
I watched the Superbowl last night, seems to have become a tradition I have somehow started, and couldn't help remind myself of my opinion that the Premier League and all domestic leagues across Europe should adapt the Play-off system to determine the national league champions at the end of the season.

Most football fans turn their nose up at this and say it wouldn't work or it wouldn't be fair on the team that finishes top and then may go on to lose.

But who cares?

The most exciting time of the Rugby League season is the Play-offs...the most exciting part of the Football League is the play-offs...the exciting part of the NFL is the play-offs ended with the 'greatest show on earth'!
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What about the WC Finals?
 
I reckon try it the Premier League and others could have the play-offs for the remaining Champions League place.

4th -7th go at it for the luxury. That would be good. If that catches on, then try it for the league.
 
Play-offs are a good idea, but with the incentive of European football the following season the top 6-7 places are worth fighting for.

What i would like to see is the 17th, 18th, 19th in the premierleague in a playoff with 2nd, 3rd and 4th from the championship.
 
I think to make it much more open the current league system should be abolished. Have clubs drawn to face eachother at random (with seeding based on last season's league finishes) and have the clubs battle it out one match at a time until the numbers are whittled down to a final two. The winner of the final is the champion of England!
 
Theoski09 said:
4th -7th go at it for the luxury. That would be good. If that catches on, then try it for the league.
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I agree, the 4th CL spot should be fought out in a play-off but lets be honest 7th placed teams in the CL would be a disaster and the Premier League would end up having their CL qualification numbers reduced.

4th and 5th place should fight it out for the 4th CL spot in a play-off, there's easily enough quality in the EPL nowadays for this to be successful but I'd honestly reduce the EPL to 18 teams and create a play-off between the Championship play-off losers and the team that finishes 17th in the EPL meaning 4 teams could be relegated/promoted.
 
Scott Dann's OK Bollocks said:
I think to make it much more open the current league system should be abolished. Have clubs drawn to face eachother at random (with seeding based on last season's league finishes) and have the clubs battle it out one match at a time until the numbers are whittled down to a final two. The winner of the final is the champion of England!
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So you'd get 5 games a season if you were lucky? I like it. Not sure what I'd do for the other eleven nonths of the year, but the players would like the holidays.
 
In the states you do get a trophy for finishing with the highest points so the league champs would still get that. But you have to remember that American sport is split into several divisions and they are in two conferences (east and west). This affects the amount of times you play each team so the playoffs balance out the fact that some teams may have 'easier' seasons than others. Clearly not the case here so wouldn't be that useful, although saying that it would be quite fun to grab 8th in the last match of the season and stand a chance of winning a cup! Maybe the prize could be the 4th Champ league spot and if one of the top 3 win it can just go to 4th anyway
 
Freddd said:
In North American sports, as soon as you know who is in the play offs, the season is effectively over. those in the play offs don't care about the rest of the league games. Neither do those not in the play offs. there's usually a couple of teams battling for the last play off place, but for the rest of the league the season is effectively over.

In the Prem, there are only about 4 or 5 teams who are going into the last game of the season without either wanting to secure first place, secure a Europa/Champions League spot, or looking over their shoulder at relegation. Every game counts, and counts equally
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In NA sports the playoff places (certainly the lower ones) often go down to the wire! And even if you get in then your finishing position is important for home advantage throughout. If anything the season picks up towards the end of the season! But yeah you're right with English football the way it is there would be very little variation in the top clubs so we'd need to implement the US draft system and that I'm not such a big fan of.

Tbh te only way this would work is in a European superleague type situation, which I certainly wouldnt be up for.
 
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