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Is SAFC with MON better than Villa with MON ??

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  1. Lostinvegas

    Lostinvegas Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking about this yesterday when talking to a Villa fan mate of mine. He thinks we have better players than Villa had when MON was the manager their.

    What do you guys think?

    McClean vs Young
    Larsson vs Downing
    Sess vs Milner
    Catts vs Petrov
    Campbell vs Agbonglhor
    Bendtner vs Heskey
    Wickham vs Carew
    Colins vs Brown
    Dunn vs Oshea
    Bardo vs Cuellar
    Ricco vs Warnock

    Its an interesting one, you have to think that it was the villa MON versions of Milner, Young and Downing and not the players they since become.

    On paper its probably quite close, I think actually our bench is probably better with the likes of Gardner, Colback, Meyler, Bridge, Turner, Killgalon etc.. all very decent alternatives.
     
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  2. CyprusMackem

    CyprusMackem Active Member

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    That's the thing with MON
    He makes average players good. Good players great and great players become Sess.
     
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  3. Steven Royston O'Neill

    Steven Royston O'Neill Well-Known Member

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    Cant be, Bent told me
     
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  4. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Only time will tell on this one mate.
     
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  5. connor wigham

    connor wigham Active Member

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    IMO

    McClean = Young
    Larsson < Downing
    Sess < Milner
    Catts = Petrov
    Campbell = Agbonglhor
    Bendtner > Heskey
    Wickham > Carew
    Colins > Brown
    Dunn < Oshea
    Bardo > Cuellar
    Ricco > Warnock
    Bench < Bench
     
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  6. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Looking at that list..........no.

    But something is clicking at the moment, so who knows.....
     
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  7. Davie 1973

    Davie 1973 Well-Known Member

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    MON v McLeish

    That's where the difference is.
     
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  8. murray out

    murray out Well-Known Member

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    villa finished top 6 in 3 successive seasons, would be hard to top that but time will tell
     
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  9. bonnybobbypark

    bonnybobbypark Well-Known Member

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    I just want to finish 6th...............

    x
     
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  10. SAFC_ScattyMOO

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    < = less than
    > = greater than

    Have you got these the wrong way around?
     
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  11. connor wigham

    connor wigham Active Member

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    no i dont think i do tbh
     
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  12. SAFC_ScattyMOO

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    Ok it was the Milner better than Sess that made me think they were the wrong way around
     
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  13. connor wigham

    connor wigham Active Member

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    i seem to remember milner ran that team like sess does now he might not be as good (SKILL WISE) but he was more importent to them
     
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  14. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    I would pull you up on Agbonlahor too connor I thought most of the time he was dreadful for Villa very flash in the pan.
    He has actually looked better coming from the wing since Bent went there.
     
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  15. connor wigham

    connor wigham Active Member

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    was he not there top scorer though???
     
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  16. blackcatsteve

    blackcatsteve Well-Known Member

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    like MR says, far too early.

    The AV players that have been mentioned MON bought them or brought them through the ranks.

    The Sunderland players are not his players, he has inherited them.

    Luckily though, I dont believe we need whole sale changes, I dont think he will do a Bruce with Keane`s team, he will strengthen it no doubt, and bring his his own players, but no sweeping changes like we have had to endure in the past.

    Imagine if the next manager of Man U sells all the players and brings in his own team, there would be hell on, OK we were no Man U, but i do think that was Bruces downfall, far too many changes.
     
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