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Cannot believe some of the vitriol towards Cisse on here...

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by sku, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. sku

    sku Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so it was foolish to react, but let's not forget this is an individual who, but for the Liverpool physio staff, would have had to have his leg amputated when he suffered his broken leg.

    Whether you think it was right or wrong, I am staggered at the reaction, most especially the *star* littered posts.
     
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  2. daverangers

    daverangers Well-Known Member

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    I think it's fair enough people are frustrated at what he did. We were in total control of the game until he lost his head and lashed out. Also, obviously it was awful that he had such a serious injury, but if that means he is going to freak out and attack any player who tackles him (albeit a bad and hard tackle)...then that is a problem.
     
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    This
     
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  4. BlindFaith

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    Got nothing personal against him, but his reaction today was completely stupid & deserves some abuse as instead of 6 points above the drop zone we're now 1 point. We simply cannot afford players to react stupidly, discipline is vital.
     
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  5. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    No doubt MH will make his feelings on the matter known to Cisse, a two week fine would be a good start...
     
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  6. jables

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    End of the day you should give the referee a choice....was stupid from DC, but tbh before the sending off, it looked really promising!
     
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  7. Azmi

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    Two broken legs one of which nearly cost him the loss of a leg due to lack of blood flow.. With that history I too would have a short fuse.

    It's understandable even if stupid.

    Joey7Barton Joseph Barton
    Feel some sympathy for @djibrilcisse1 can understand his reaction after 2 broken legs in the past
     
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  8. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    I'm somewhat confused as to why his leg injury history is in anyway relevant to the fact that what he did out there today was inexcusable. An apparent £4M has just been invested in him to score goals to lift us to safety. But now he'll be warming a seat in the stands for three vital matches.
     
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  9. YorkshireHoopster

    YorkshireHoopster Well-Known Member

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    I must have forgotten the fact that Djibril Cisse is a human being. Think about it. it's not that difficult. Anyway what is it that he is supposed to have done? I saw it. Clattenburg saw it. The worst that it came to was clutching Johnson's beard. Although losing one or two hairs may have been painful for Roger Johnson, Cisse did not lash out. He did not throw a punch. Nor did he try to headbutt or kick him. In what way did he justify being sent off?
     
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  10. ELLERS

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    I don’t care if Cisse has had 50 broken legs you cannot react like that.

    Once again poor discipline has let us down and once more it has cost us.
    First Barton and now Cisse, you could not dream of it?

    MH needs to get in that dressing room and explain that if the players are going to keep costing us games then next season they will be playing away at Barnsley on a cold Tuesday night. Saying that if we went down most would be off.

    Really P’d off with this now it’s simply not good enough!

    As for Barton?
    Get off bloody Twitter and learn how to pass a ball you muppet!
     
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  11. QPRNUTS

    QPRNUTS Well-Known Member

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    I have to say that i thought Johnsons reaction was the only good thing in all of this. He did not react or fake injury and looked as surprised as everyone at the red. I love football. I love the passion, energy, effort etc etc, but football has changed so much in the last 10-15 years and i'm not so sure i love it as much as i once did. Football was a contact sport. Everybody knew what was a red and what was a yellow. Nowadays with all the scrutiny of refs they are almost afraid to get a decision wrong. You can't even touch a player anymore. It's ruining the game. IMHO Cisse showed showed no intent of aggression, he did not strike the player, he reacted to a very bad challange. But IMHO it was not an over-reaction. I don't blame this ref in particular. Football, the game we love to love is becoming so bucking sterile.
     
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  12. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    Funnily enough, I did think about it before I posted, Yorks. But I still arrived at that opinion.

    In what way did he justify being sent off? It is my understanding that if you put your hands up and deliberately make contact with an opponents face, then you can expect a red card. Perhaps he was only brushing some crumbs out of Johnson's beard?
     
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  13. Flyer

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    it was stupid but only because he should have lamped him good and proper, theres nothing more annoying than getting sent off for something that wouldnt hurt a 6 year old. If youre going to do it, do it right!

    Of course, the radio was saying the tackle should have been a red too but the rules are stupid, the had numerous studs up late tackles and only got a yellow and he did something far far less dangerous and gets a red for it. Whats more likely to end a career?
     
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    I can't believe that you can't believe the reaction. He cost us a 6 pointer through his stupidity. At least he was man enough to apologise. Time to move on.
     
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  15. Sooperhoop

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    Just a thought, which was more likely to cause serious injury, Johnson's cynical tackle or Cisse's hand around his neck? The game is losing it's sense of proportion and referees are ruining matches with dramatic flourishings of the red card for often laughable decisions in the context of such matches, a sensible referee would have yellow carded both, told them to shake hands and get on with it, Clattenberg was impressing the referee scorer in the stand rather than using common sense which no longer exists in the game...
     
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  16. Flanman

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    Agree with Uber & Ellers
     
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  17. Rollercoaster Ranger

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    While I understand exactly what you are saying here, as soon as Cisse grabbed at Johnson my first thought was that he was going off. We all know that you can't do that. Were your first thoughts any different?
     
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  18. YorkshireHoopster

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    Yes they were. We have all seen incidents where players confront each other and there is pushing and shoving and the ref steps back, speaks to the culprits and then chooses one player on each side to give them a yellow card. Those of you who say that raising your hands uptowards another player are looking at the possibility of a red card are missing the point of the rule. It is the intent that is important not the act itself. Any referee who automatically brandishes a red card whatever the circumstances is an idiot who is doing a disservice to the game. He does not know what is expected of him.

    I did expect a yellow but never a red. Particularly after Johnson got a yellow.

    Knowing that you cannot do it does not mean that in the heat of the moment you would not do so yourself. It was an instinctive reaction of a man who has faced career-ending leg breaks twice before. Last year in the home game with Forest, Adel lashed out witha slow kick in frustartion after he had been hacked down for the umpteenth time. He got a yellow card. That was sensible and appropriate for the gravity of his "assault".

    What did Cisse do that was so very different?
     
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  19. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, I knew what was coming. That in itself doesn't make the decision right. We saw the same situation with the Barton sending off where often players will stick their heads together as though it's the start of the rutting season and often get away with nothing worse than a yellow card, it's the inconsistency that is always quoted when, in reality, the emphasis is totally disproportionate to the 'crime'.

    I bet old-timers like Chopper Harris, Norman Hunter and Peter Storey must be counting their lucky stars they weren't playing today...
     
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  20. QPR Oslo

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    Totally stupid decision. terrible decision, as Rebel has said on another thread, decisions such as this are wrecking the game. Cisse needed to be told to calm down, taake it easy, no more. His conduct was not violent and never a red card.
     
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