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Scuderia Ferrari F2012

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by El_Bando, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. RoadRunner

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  2. Forza Bianchi

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    Interesting comparison here:

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  3. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    thanks forza for the comparrison, Looks like Mclaren have gone well below!

    Also I can see what looks revolutionary on the ferrari, They look like bits of 2011 cars.
     
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    That comparison above was from F1technical, as is this one:

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  5. EternalMSC

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    Makes me sick to the bone. ;)
    I hope Mercedes have not ruined the normally beautiful car to follow this design, you could fit a head through the gap at the front.
     
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  6. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    I thought the rule on noses was to only get the tip of it lower? looking at FF's example above its in the same position! now we are left with the ogly step chiped into it
     
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  7. Stephen Lickorish

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    The Ferrari is definitely uglier than the Caterham. The real question is: has McLaren got it right or have Ferrari, Force India and Caterham got it right?
     
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  9. Kyle?

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    That ferrari is without doubt the ugliest F1 car i've ever seen. However, if it's fast enough to beat the McLaren's, i won't complain.
     
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    With Massa still there, Ferrari won't beat Mclaren, even if they have a better car.
     
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  11. Delete Me

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    To be honest Mercedes would be the only car design I could call "good looking" if they followed the same path as most of the others I've seen so far. They're the kind of designers to go in the direction of block shapes over the car if it meant performance. Mercedes (I think) are the only team in F1 that are able to get away with it as they have done some fugly cars in the past and would be considerd "normal antics" by Mercedes in the publics eye. But funnily enough when they won perspectives started to change...

    It's only natural for us to point out differences as we consider them deficiency's unless they show us it's infact a strength and more likely to succeed (aka) like evolution...

    If you were sent back 500,000 years in the past and meet some woman with a nose the size of a fist, you would likely consider her ugly. But if she was able to sniff out prey 2-3 miles away with that hooter I'm ****ing sure you will quickly change your mind on whats pretty and what's not if it meant survival for you.
     
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  12. cosicave

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    …I'm sure you're onto something here
    Silver. I just can't work out what it is…
     
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  13. SgtBhaji

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    I think I've finally stopped throwing up!

    No... wait..........





    Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrf!



    Better out than in that Ferrari, Hey?
     
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  14. SgtBhaji

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    Clearly Duplo.
     
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  15. jerseymackem

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    Tbh, if I cover up THAT nose, it looks quite decent... Oh wait... NOT THE NOSEEEEE!!!!!
     
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  16. davidjwest

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    Reminds me of the Williams Walrus.

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  17. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    no, mega-blocks or stickle-bricks is my guess.
     
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  18. RoadRunner

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    They should have named this the Ferrari Balboa
     
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  19. Max Whiplash

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    It looks more of a bruiser than a beauty, maybe that'll be a good thing. They don't award points for aesthetics.
     
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  20. cosicave

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    This is the most interesting comparison I've seen so far:



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    It demonstrates two very different philosophies and I'm not talking about aesthetics.

    Despite the more slippery looking shape of the McLaren, I would expect it to generate more drag that the lower-winged Ferrari, which punches a smaller hole through the air. But this leaves two questions hanging:

    • Can the Ferrari generate as much downforce with less drag? - This is something Red Bull have managed to achieve over the past two seasons; and I'd expect their 2012 car to retain a Ferrari-like low tail, which must rely more heavily upon the diffuser.
    • If the McLaren's steeper rake is raising its tail so much, it must punch a bigger hole in the air, with a corresponding increase in drag. But there may be compensation if they can achieve more downforce than the Ferrari (and what I expect from Red Bull and probably Mercedes).


    Before considering the efficiency of the diffusers, which at this stage can only be guessed at, we have seen from the various pictures so far released that the floors of Caterham, Ferrari and Force India sit flatter to the ground than McLaren's. Bear in mind that low pressure underneath the car is the most efficient way to induce downforce without a corresponding increase in drag; and creating low pressure under the floor requires its tail-end to sit higher than its leading edge - so long as it can be confined to a small volume by preventing higher pressure air being swallowed in from the sides of the floor. If the tail is raised too much, the 'ground effect' caused by the rake of the floor will be lost.

    It can be seen that McLaren's floor is more steeply raked than the other three so far unveiled. But how have they managed to keep under-floor air 'clean' with such a steep rake? I wonder if they have been able to get their diffuser to work miracles, or whether they have been unrealistically ambitious. Perhaps Adrian Newey will tell us in the months to come…
     
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