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Luke Moore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. premierpaul

    premierpaul Member

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    I know this has been touched upon on another posting BUT what the hell does Buck see in Luke Moore.
    Tuesday's game has again highlighted his total lack of work rate. What was his role!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Moore's goal against Bolton last week will no doubt blind a few people into thinking he has the makings of a Premiership player but surely those that watch him week in week out will know the truth.
    He stands in the middle of the pitch, slowly moves left and right and puts his hand in the air when closly marked by two defenders. In stark contrast to Graham who works non stop, closing down players and running the angles. Surely Dobbie would be a better option.
    Am I the only one who sees this?
    PS. Gylfi-what a star.
     
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  2. The Union Jack - RIP Bessian

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    He worked well against Fulham with Lita I think. Don't understand why we brought him on at that point on Tuesday though!
     
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  3. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but i Think he is a decent player for us, its not his fault he was Made to play defensively wide against Chelsea , when ive seen him play up top or in the Hole he has done well, also he seems to not moan about lack of game time which makes him a good squad player to have around, technically he is probably the most gifted forward at the club .
     
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  4. smelters

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    i agree mate , bang on
     
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  5. Libertyswan

    Libertyswan Well-Known Member

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    Proved to be the wrong sub by Brendan, we were wide open on our left hand side with Taylor needing cover but Moore is not a battler or one to track back. Most in the East stand could see that Besingwa had acres of space and we should have probably put our winger Routledge there to keep him occupied. Same thing happened at Wolves when Orlandi came on instead of Leon I think it was, we needed a strong character when up against it but these two although having some skills are not ones to rely on when trying to defend a lead.
     
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  6. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    perhaps BR couldn't see how effective Scott was in covering back (highly unlikely I know) but to me it should have been a straight swop for Routledge just for his williness to defend and to bomb on when the opportunity arose , we created a few chances on the left during the second half when Nathan swopped for a short time
     
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  7. Kifflom!

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    "...technically he is probably the most gifted forward at the club ."

    Huh? Really?

    At the risk of doing a 'Life of Brian' what has Moore done since coming here? Laconic at best. Lazy at worst. As the comparison has been made already, contrast that with Dobbie's contribution last season. Moore was the wrong player given the wrong opportunity at the wrong time imo. Routledge was the man to come on v Chelsea as Dobbie's not a wide man anyway.
     
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  8. doctor love

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    it's gone now, waste of time moaning about it on here.
     
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  9. mustyfrog

    mustyfrog Well-Known Member

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    the question then must be asked - are substitutions BR's achilles heel????
     
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  10. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

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    Possibly. If we're only going to talk about future events that will severely restrict the forum, doc.

    Rodgers, like most managers does seem to have his favourites and that doesn't always sit well with the fans. For the life of me I cannot see how Moore was a better option on the wing than Routledge. The latter is quicker and has better technical ability. Obviously Rodgers thought Moore would have been better defensively.

    Lesson learned.
     
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  11. Bap666

    Bap666 Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't agree more Paul. I just dont see what he offers. He isnt exactly pacy, I have yet to see him take on and get passed a defender, his first touch is poor and he never seems to find space. My heart sinks when I see him coming on. As for being technically gifted dont see it myself as opposed to the likes of Dyer, Sinclair Allen etc.
    The only thing I can think of is that he must impress BR on the training pitch.
    That said and done Brendan is doing a great job and who am I to criticise ;)
     
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  12. doctor love

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    lol, yeah it would a bit, but it's old ground going over moore.
     
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  13. mustyfrog

    mustyfrog Well-Known Member

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    moore is a legend in his own lunchbox, i hope he is donating 90%of his wage to charity
     
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  14. Norway-jack

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    Makes me laugh when posters slag off moore saying it should have been routledge on the field etc etc, its not up to luke moore who goes on!! at the start of the season many didnt rate routledge what so ever(even though the guy had minimal minutes of getting to know the system and players) now he is the best thing since sliced bread.very fickle!

    Chelsea were all over us like a rash second half, it was so annoying to concede at the end i know but give the team and manager some credit, it wasnt Luke Moores fault it wasnt Brenden Rodgers fault it wasnt anybodies fault it was a deflected goal that was scored against a tired team,we were out on our feet in the last 20mins IMO.

    RE what has Luke moore done Knackered, well i havent forgotten our talk when i said Moore will have more(no pun) impact than dobbie this season,so far its 2-0 to moore and he has made a better contribution all round than the dobster(who i love by the way) Luke has done what has been asked of him by the manager,he is the best technical centre forward at the club,when played in his correct position (ie, against spurs) he is ten times better at holding the ball up then dobbie or Lita and his ability to play different positions has made him a valuable player to have on the bench.If he had the drive of DG then we wouldnt of had him on a free would we?? so he like all our players are not perfect.

    Maybe you should ask the question to Brenden rodgers? the manager thinks he has done more than enough and is reliable when called upon, not all players will automatically adjust to how we play,it takes some longer than others, there are many who dont rate him and thats fair enough,there were many that didnt rate routledge but that changed after Liverpool, Moore is not in the same class as borini who he lost his place to last year (borini £7m pound player?) and DG as our record signing is always going to be first choice.

    You could argue that its the dobbie argument of not getting enough minutes on the pitch ??

    Fact is when some fans dont take to a player it sometimes spreads like cancer on the terraces, because luke moore doesnt run around like a headless chicken he is perceived to be lazy, When Pratley came here he was slagged off for playing sideways and being crablike,scotland was classed as being lazy even though he was a great goal scorer,DG had stick because he couldnt hit a cows ass with a banjo!! what have the romans ever done indeed..
    Moore will grow into our team and get better, he has the raw materials give him a chance and lets try not to put the blame on him for a deflected goal against a tired team that was holding on against one of the best in Europe<ok>
     
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  15. Kifflom!

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    Wrong. Most Swans fans give a player a chance. Routledge got brickbats because he was poor when he first came here. He upped his game and the fans responded. That's not being fickle. On Tuesday, Moore didn't do the defensive job that Sinclair had done all game so we're entitled to point the finger. Such a lazy player.

    You mention asking Rodgers. Interesting that it was Routledge that came on for the last 10 today at WBA, not Moore. Like I said, lesson learned. :)
     
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  16. Kifflom!

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    BTW, just re-read your post. I wasn't one of the idiots criticizing Graham, Scotland or Pratley. Could never understand that, though I have to say Pratley was very lazy in the last half of the season and fans don't like that. Great goal in the playoff semi though.
     
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  17. Norway-jack

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    Knackered- No you wernt in fairness. Sorry if you thought that was directed at you, it wasnt intended that way<ok>

    there were quite a few who were giving the new boys stick early season and routledge was playing in a new team,different system and new field position!! Liverpool was the first game he played his correct position i think . DG proved once again that he can do it at this level,very pleased for him :)
     
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  18. Norway-jack

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    Rodgers made the right call today,agree.

    i dont blame moore i blame the fact Chelsea are a top 4 club who pretty much murdered us second half :)
     
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  19. It'sChicoTime

    It'sChicoTime Well-Known Member

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    Nobody can blame Moore.

    He was playing out of position and isn't used to falling that far back. It's easily done.
     
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  20. DragonPhilljack

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    Paul, agree that Moore is a very frustrating player on times, and he's not my type of forward, matter of fact he'd be down the pecking order behind Dobbie if I were manager, that said, I have mixed feelings regarding him, think he has a lot more to offer, than we've seen, and he obviously gets on with Rodgers, more than Dobbie does, of the two, give me Dobbie any day, who clearly has more passion for the game, not to mention drive. But whats the point of having good technical ability, when you can't summon up the enthusiasm to use it!..................
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