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We should have sold Fryatt . . .

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  1. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    . . . before Xmas I suggested our goalscoring needs would be better served by selling Fryatt and bringing in fresh blood - adding to his fee if necessary. I was roundly scoffed, but I wonder if that view has changed.

    We are desperate for goals and Fryatt brings the sum total of ****-all to the party; in fact, he dips into the minuses because he squanders well worked opportunities. The goals he has scored are not top drawer and most bairns would have taken them.

    Too late now, but if you could swop him tomorrow, would you?

    Barmby ****ed up and needs to get his boots on - he would eat these opportunities up for breakfast!!
     
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  2. WalshNo5

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    Told you Fryatt was sh*te, thank fook we now have players of the calibre of Beckford and Nugent.
     
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  3. Erik

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    Be careful, Walshy, you'll get a nosebleed if you remain at the heady heights of 13th.
     
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  4. Fez

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    **** off onto the 'banter' thread. :confused:
     
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  5. tigermaul

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    Wasn't it Portsmouth away where Fryatt made his debut? He transformed the team when he came on. I'm sure he can get back to that.

    And it is "should have". We "should have" sold Fryatt? No.
     
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  6. Fez

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    I'm chuffed you are sure - not certain how many agree.

    Okay grammarman, what did I put?
     
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  7. RicardoHCAFC

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    Should of
     
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  8. King Curtis

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    He's hit a rough patch but I woudn't sell him. It's fustarting that Fryatt fluffs the chances he does, but the fustration stems from the knowledge that he can put the ball in the net.
     
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  9. PLT

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    He pisses me off immensely and everyone on here knows it, I've been firmly on your side of the argument the whole time Fez. But would I sell him? No that's silly. You sell players that aren't playing, if they're first team players then selling them can only weaken your squad.

    A better question would be 'would you drop him?' To that I'd say yes.
     
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  10. Leeds Met Tiger

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    Totally Agree. Once Matty gets one he will get a lot; but he's playing in a role he's obviously uncomfy in. We NEED(ED) a big, powerful striker (can't believe I'm agreeing with swanny in the HDM today) because that's how matty scores his goals; a flick on from a big man, Fryatt to poach. Sorry Mr Barmby; you're getting your attacking tactics all wrong... just look at the past for Fryatt and loan a striker with height asap! Fryatt should NOT be sold!
     
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    That doesn't explain why when the chances fall to him, he misses. That isn't down the lack of a big man, that's a lack of technique and a crap mentality.
     
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    Lack of technique is hardly something you can say about Fryatt when you love Mclean? Mcleans technique is hit it hard.....

    Anyway this is not a Fryatt v Mclean thread. His movement against Doncaster was far better than recent weeks, yet its not back to what he does best, make runs beyond the defence. We need to start looking for through balls for him to get on to, as soon as we do that he still start scoring again.
     
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    That chance in the first half on Tuesday, he really should have scored, so I do agree with the lack of technique. I'm just saying; look at what he did for Leicester, he had the technique then, something has changed and I think he needs the big man to help him and the team. You don't go from a 30 goal a season striker to the way he is now for no reason. When we were up in arms about him before the Ipswich away game he outclassed their defenders and scored a brilliant goal; so give him time.
     
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  14. Leeds Met Tiger

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    Sorry but carrying on from my point; just seen that Craig Beattie has been released from Swansea; so he'd be available for free and outside the transfer window. Worth a punt?
     
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    I thought his movement was better against Donny (certainly better than the Crawley game) and he was working hard again in the first half, but as I've said many times, my criticism of him goes back to before this weird spell where he's not even making runs, it's when he's playing relatively well but still missing every chance and doing his sulky child act after he's missed a few as if it's someone else's fault that annoy me.

    For the record, as I've stated several times I'm not particularly a McLean fan, I just prefer him to Fryatt and it's the most natural comparison to make. What I mean about Fryatt's technique is the constant scuffing of shots; he hardly ever gets a clean connection on it, it's always a scruffy shot that ends up trickling wide or into the keeper's hands. McLean doesn't score many but he gets a proper connection on the ball every time, as do most players, it's a very basic skill.

    I think there's a rule saying that free agents can only be signed outside of a transfer window if they didn't have a club at the last transfer window.
     
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  16. RicardoHCAFC

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    There is, but he was released a couple of weeks ago because he hasn't played all this season and he's out of contract in the summer. The concern is more that he only scored 7 goals in 45 league games for them.
     
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  17. PLT

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    I'm always cautious about looking just at goal records, if a player has a good goal record he'd be playing for his team and not available to us.

    Also released by Swansea last month was David Cotterill. I don't know a lot about how his last couple of years have been but he always impressed me at Sheff United, he's a pacey winger and always had me ****ting my pants when he was running at Dawson. We obviously wanted another winger and I'd have thought he'd be worth a look.
     
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  18. RicardoHCAFC

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    It's not necessarily the case that a good scoring record at this level would see him playing when a team has gone into the PL (eg Windass). I was leaping about 4 steps ahead in my thoughts without explaining them when I said that was my concern though.

    The fact he has a low scoring record but played regularly for them says he's been used as a hold up man for others to work off. Now in King we already have a player who's natural game when he plays up front fits that, but Barmby is playing him in other positions to keep the style of football a certain way. If Barmby doesn't want the front man playing that way then Beattie probably wouldn't be much use to us.

    Cotterill, assuming it's not injury based would be well worth a look at, it's too late now January is over, but I've always liked Coppinger from Donny as well. Whenever I've seen him he's always looked pacey and had very good close control at speed. I think it was last season at the KC I was talking about him and saying how he kept skipping past our midfielders so we should put someone on him man to man instead of leaving it to Dawson. Then he went and either scored or set up Gillet. I can't remember which way round it was, but it was those two involved in the goal.
     
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  19. Proud Tiger

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    Like that
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  20. originallambrettaman

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    We're trying to play with a lone striker, with nobody capable of playing that role, there's absolutely nothing wrong with Fryatt's ability, he just needs to be in a 4-4-2(or 4-3-1-2).

    --------Mannone
    Rosie Chester Hobbs Dawson
    -----Oli Mckenna Evans
    ---------Koren
    -----Fryatt Brady

    I think Brady looks better in a more central position and we never use the width of the pitch anyway, all of those players are good on the ball and any of the front three are capable of getting a good strike away. I still think we're not making the most of the personnel we have and at least this set up is more likely to have goals in it(Simpson or Mclean could equally take up either of the striking roles).
     
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