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One big thing I hate about Pardew

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by NufcBano, Jan 29, 2012.

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  1. Donkey Toon

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    What I don't understand Bano is this. HBA played instead of Obertan and we lost. For months you have been blaming every poor performance on Pardew picking Obertan over your favourite.

    So now that he is actually playing HBA we are losing because the manager instills fear into the team (whoooooo!)

    I think it is more likely that we had key players who performed below their capacity, had some bad luck (penalty decision) and had one of those games where things just didn't work out.

    Why don't you post your pre-match tactics in future so that we can judge how well you would do, instead of continually acting wise after the event through an impulsive desire to sound like a know it all!
     
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  2. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Next time, let's all predict precisely how many easy chances Leon Best will fail to put away.

    (thanks to Senegal, I'm hoping the answer for NUFC is zero, and that he takes his fancy finishing down to McCarthy's shower)
     
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  3. NufcBano

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    It was clear to me the team were far too concerned with the opposition and the 'giant killing' that may be about to claim them then anything else.

    Best never looked like scoring, Simmo toe poke was a joke and was going well wide when I saw it again. My point is their is no way in hell we would have lost that game if we had played to our potential or if it were a league game.

    We far too aware that we were away from home, versus a lower league team, live on telly to the nation. That comes from the manager.

    and how he can use the lacking of quality excuse when Best and Shola are capable of beating Premier League teams (when they want to) and leaving Lovehandles on the bench throughout....I mean even Obertan would have been an option is a joke.

    So Brighton, who had NOTHING in attack managed to win that game....because we didn't have Demba Ba in the team. That win against QPR must have been result of the season then.

    It's just negative, excuse filled tripe again. He treats us fans with contempt and I dont like it.
     
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  4. NufcBano

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    First thing, erm no. Cant say I have blamed everything on Obertan.

    Hahahaha so HBA has one, thats one, poor game from the start so I'm supposed to lie down and admit what?....I was wrong? Obertan has been poor for months mate and HBA has been class in his last 4/5 appearances.

    And as far as being 'clever after the event'.......you say I have been saying for months we should be playing Ben Arfa, so if I acted clever after the event, I would be waiting for HBA to start see if he plays well and THEN start going on about how Pardew was wrong wouldn't I? Not going on about it previous for months and basically sticking my neck on the line in case he turns out to be dogsh*t. Think about it.

    EDIT: I also made it quite clear that this new formation, with those specific players, doesn't create enough chances BEFORE the brighton match. Just saying.

    By the way. NUFC and Pardew have been awesome overall this season. Just so you know...........but i'm a perfectionist. Cant help it.
     
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  5. Donkey Toon

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    By picking up on small points you have as usual missed out on the major point made. Why do you insist on being hyper-critical of every instant where we don't get a satisfactory result? You always claim to know exactly what has gone wrong and suggest that it was always obvious what the manager should have done. These revelations never come in advance and you are basically picking through bones and trying to sound like you would be doing a better job because you would never have made any mistakes. The truth is you are an overly judgemental armchair critic of the worst sort.

    What you call perfectionist I call unnecessarily fickle criticism after the event.
     
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  6. Dr. Lucien Sanchez

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    Bano you are a ****ing bellend.
     
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  7. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain Well-Known Member

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    He doesn't! 4-1 would have flattered Brighton. The ball didn't go in. Unfortunately, Leon "Can Beat Prem Teams" Best forgot how to play football. He got 3 chances IN SPITE of playing like a tool and forgetting to support Ameobi. We harried, chased and owned them for most of the game. We didn't get a stonewall penalty/pelanty. What's he supposed to say? Sorry for picking Best? Sincere apologies Williamson got in the way of a cross?

    It was a gameplan set up to stop them playing, win the game and get into R5. We didn't, we aren't. Just like Man City, Man Utd, WBA, Aston Villa, et al. Would we have beaten Liverpool @ Anfield? Nope.
     
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  8. StoneyNUFC

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    Or Tiote and Cabaye doing the most work in the league (furthest dstance and furthest average per game) - Jonas's constant tracking back to allow Santon forward and to cover, Collo's keeping the best players in the prem in his back pocket and Krul being on the form of his life.

    But no, no.. must all be down to Demba's abillity.
     
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  9. MF SHAK

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    My diagnosis as well doctor.
     
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  10. Beatski

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    <laugh> seriously?
     
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  11. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    I thought Pardew got it wrong on Saturday and his unwillingness to shift Shola out is handicapping us at present. Best looked ill at ease out the left. There is a simple solution if Pards really wants to play that formation. Put Best up top instead of Shola. He is a much better striking option afterall.

    But to be honest you go way overboard and lose all perspective on things. We're having a cracking season and that is something Pardews decision making has played a part in. You have to take the rough with the smooth with any manager, because they cannot please one and all. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture with regards to ourselves this season. Pardew losing an FA Cup because he was a little on the negative side and his stubborness with Shola. Hardly the end of the world.
     
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  12. Minty Fresh

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    I actually think we played better vs Brighton than we did vs QPR. The only difference was luck.
     
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  13. Roland Deschain

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    Understand the comment, but don't necessarily agree. After all, t'were Leon who missed the chances, all of which were put on a plate by Shola. Even when it didn't 'work', no-one would have begrudged us scoring 3 or 4 goals in a pretty flat performance. It was wayward finishing that did us in. Best did indeed look badly equipped to deal with the position he was asked to play in; maybe there is a case to say Pards should have waited to try his 3 up top until he had the right players in to do it. That said, is Brighton the worst opposition we've played this year? On league standing, yes, they are. I think it is all out of perspective, not least of all because we did more than enough to win that game, but because one player in particular had an absolute stinker in front of goal, we're out. The end.
     
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  14. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Shola was worse for me but there you go. Just too lazy to play football at this level. At least Best was trying. At times with I despair with Shola, I'm not sure whether his list of injuries have taken its toll on him and he can't work. But then I see games like him coming on against Spurs, grafting his bollocks off chasing everything from left wing, scoring a pearler, and I think nah he's just plain lazy. Plus his wrestling with oppo defenders instead of trying to get the ball winds me up something bad. He'd have scored 3 times on Saturday if he hadn't been engaged in WWE!

    I like Best. Took me a long time to because he used to be a lazy so and so. But the penny dropped with him this season and he started putting defenders under pressure. I'm not convinced because it worked well against QPR, he is now an option on the left. I just don't like it when we really need for Shola to be dropped. He is handicapping us with his random touch and and laziness.

    We played ok against Brighton and had control of the game. I'd just have preferred us to be a little more attacking and aggressive instead of creating three or four chances, hoping one is put away. I think we had too much quality for them and they were there for the taking. The longer the game reasonably tight the more their confidence grew.
     
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  15. Wease555

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    And I thought we had some moaners on our board, **** me, I reckon this guy must be a deep undercover SAFC supporter, keep up the good work fella
     
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  16. cabluigi

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    Take him. Please.
     
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  17. NufcBano

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    For the first time in 7 years we have a team that could genuinely have won the FA Cup, especially with Man U and City going out. We even get a favourable draw away at Brighton. It could have been a lot worse. Throughout the game it became pretty obvious to me that Brighton weren't up for nor capable of giving us any real problems to think about. But somehow we manage to lose, even though Brighton didn't have one shot on target.....so forgive me if I am a bit pissed off that if we had just gone for it a little bit more, like change formation or bring on a different attacking player, we could be sat quite comfortably in the last 16.

    Blame luck all you like, I acknowledge we were unlucky with their goal and the hanball claim, but we didnt have any fire in our bellies for that match from start to finish.....apart from Cabaye. Who looks like getting a 3 match ban for his efforts.

    I dont know how many times I can say that this season is going above all expectations and I am loving it.....so I'm going to stop.
     
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