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Josh King is a Striker!

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by mussiesredhat, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. mussiesredhat

    mussiesredhat Active Member

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    OK. He is lightening fast, but no way is he a winger/wide midfield player. The ten minutes at Reading and yesterday were proof enough. I expect big things from the STRIKER!
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    I thought we should have switched him to playing through the middle yesterday, they looked way more nervous of him than they did Fryatt.
     
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  3. SimonGraysJacket

    SimonGraysJacket Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely shocking display yesterday, I was livid all night, I had friends who had a 100 mile round trip for that ****. Barmby stop playing our strikers on the ****ing wing. If they are not good enough to play up front send them back or get rid of them. Also when was the last time we actually won a header from an attacking corner. They are just a waste of time, we are not aggresive enough in midfield or attack. Aaarghhh!
     
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  4. Jaggro

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    I don't understand why we don't try playing the corner short and trying some new technique. Clearly we are NEVER going to score otherwise.
     
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  5. Proud Tiger

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    We missed Mc Kenna in midfield and King hasn't got the control that Stewart has
     
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  6. Fettis the striker

    Fettis the striker Well-Known Member

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    we are awful at short corners and nine times out of ten make a right mess of them
     
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  7. Kempton

    Kempton Well-Known Member

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    Warren Joyce said King was more a foward than a striker !
     
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  8. DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)

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    agree he needs to be giving a go up top, fryatt was awful, and mclean not much better, he gave it away twice in the build up to the goal, then hit that pathetic effort when the keeper was miles out the box, all he needed to do was round him, or lift it high and force the handball, and what does he do, hit it in the one safe area for the keeper in his stomach, clinical striking at its best!
     
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  9. tigercity

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    care to explain the difference?
     
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  10. Kempton

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    Not at all sure tbh,but that's what he said,said not me. He said Josh can play anywhere along a front three,which i also found strange(Nick prefering one up front). Maybe a Giggs type player as Giggs isn't a striker,but you would call him a forward.
     
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  11. suttontiger

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    Unfortunately Nick tore the guts out the side - no Rosey Dawson Chester Koren Mckenna Stewart - they were route one and outfought us. Simple as.

    Had we not got a game a few days after after against Donny I feel sure Nick would have picked our regular stating eleven.
     
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  12. Totally HCAFC

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    It was one of his first games in a long time to be fair to King. He looked lightening quite yes. And he was probably the one positive out of the game.

    Not too sure why Brady went off at half time thought he was playing alright when he was on. Looking forward to seeing our key players on Tuesday!
     
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  13. mussiesredhat

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    if King had Stewarts control, he would not be at Hull City!
     
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  14. Der Alte

    Der Alte Well-Known Member

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    King looked promising and he could develop into a really useful option - bags of pace certainly. The big problem yesterday was the ineffective mid-field - some poor distribution out of defence and no one to pick up the loose balls. Individually the biggest loss was probably Paul McKenna whose tidy work makes a big difference.
    I thought Oli made a difference when he came on, a good physical presence and his distribution was a major improvement.
     
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  15. hullcity123

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    He was shocking yesterday along with Cairney. Yes he's fast, I know but why have him out on the wing? I couldn't agree more of what everyone else have said. UTT!
     
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  16. Jaggro

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    I'm honestly stunned by people's reviews of Cairney yesterday. As I said I thought he was motm, he wasn't even particularly good but he was 10 times better than the rest of them. If we'd won 5-0 and he'd played that way then fair enough, but if you're going to criticise anyone, Cairney should be last on the list along with Cooper.
     
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    King looked very similar to Stewart to me but more raw pace and less skill. Weird because on the radio he said he felt fine technically but was lacking a bit of physical fitness. It was only one game but I didn't get the impression he was going to sort our attacking problems out, far from it.
     
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  18. RicardoHCAFC

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    In reasonably modern terms, and I'm just guessing having seen King play before that Joyce was using these definitions:

    The forward is the one with a physical ability that plays up front that wins the ball, holds it up, and brings others into play but can get you a few goals as well. You would have Heskey, Iwelumo, Les Ferdinand, and Windass (don't remember when he was younger but in his second spell definitely) that kind of player.

    The striker is the one that puts it in the net, so the Owen, Defoe, or Campbell. (Yeah I know Windass and Campbell scored the same number for us last time round but you get the idea)

    Of course when it became popular to call 451s 433s just because the likes of Chelsea and Man U were playing them people like Giggs and Stewart started being called forwards as well and we ended up with forwards and strikers both being called strikers to create a distinction between them and what is really the attacking midfielders and wingers.
     
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  19. Kempton

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    That's what i said !
     
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  20. RicardoHCAFC

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    lol You said maybe a Giggs type player, I said King is a Windass/Ferdinand/Iwelumo type of player because I'm figuring Joyce was playing at the time they were referred to as forwards (so he'd be used to calling them that), and Giggs and co were still midfielders. Plus from seeing him play there that bigger man up front is the role I think he'd excel in for us, out wide I just don't see his style suiting as naturally.
     
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