Manchester United Premier League: 3 2006ââ¬â07, 2007ââ¬â08, 2008ââ¬â09 FA Cup: 1 2003ââ¬â04 League Cup: 2 2005ââ¬â06, 2008ââ¬â09 FA Community Shield: 1 2007 UEFA Champions League: 1 2007ââ¬â08 FIFA Club World Cup: 1 2008 These are ronaldo's current achievments. Watching Barca tonight makes you realise he probably wont be winning a whole lot more. Should never have moced tbh.
hard not to pity madrid. doesn't matter what they do they dont really have a chance when barca are in every compitition you play in. Anyone know if it is true that Jose is already considering quitting, Heard it mentioned on whatever program came on sky after the arsenal game.
Yeah. The board wont back him in the T market, he wanted that spanish striker from bilbou and ended up with adebayor on loan. He cant play tactics he would like to against certain teams because the fans and board dont accept it, hence the 5-0 thrashing by barca, they had to play open football. Nearly got stabbed the other week. Disagreements with perez etc. I cant see him being there much longer tbh.
It's times like this I'm glad we have the Glazers. It'd be great to have some nutty Sheikh throwing his country's money at us whilst 40% of his country's workers go unpaid and are forced to live in slums, but when you see how some owners screw their clubs and managers over it's definitely a case of better the devil you know. Even Abramovich managed to do Chelsea over by forcing Shevchenko on them, driving out Mourinho, appointing Avram Grant and trying to get Scolari to turn theminto Brazil...
I think its more a case with madrid that they have spent so much in the last couple of years that they are now trying to be a bit more reasonable.
But spent too much cos they were forced to by their owner / president who was elected on the promise of the "Second Galacticos". That sort of populist crap that can come with clubs being run by supporter groups means you end up blowing loads of money on expensive players you don't really need and with no idea how they'll fit into the team (Kaka, Benzema). Then when you actually identify an important issue, as Mourinho has done, you can't spend money on it. Mourinho is actually very lucky that Chelsea effectively had an infinite budget when he joined, cos although they had signed 14 or 15 new players the season beforehand, he was still able to go out and buy the two players they really needed to become title winners - Carvalho to provide a suitable partner for Terry, and Drogba to give them physical presence and create space up front. And the following season he was able to get Essien who has helped bring out the best in Lampard. That's why assembling top teams often takes so long - you have to keep plugging the gaps that appear as the players you have start to fit together. And in all honestly the Glazers have been pretty good at letting SAF do that - he brought in Evra and Vidic to sort out the back line, Carrick to fill the gap in midfield, Anderson and Nani as long term replacements for Giggs and Scholes, and Berbatov and Valencia to replace Ronaldo (I still believe Berbatov was bought in anticipation of Ronaldo leaving in 2009). I'm also confident in summer they'll let him bring in the top class midfielder we need, and hopefully a replacement for Hargreaves as well.
Mourinho should never have gone to Real Madrid, they expect to immediately win everything in amazing style despite not having a very good team.
In what way do they not have a very good team? They have some of the best individuals on the planet playing for them
Best individuals ≠ good team Real rely far too much on individual brilliance from Ronaldo and others, and not enough on teamwork and coherent play. They are a good side, but not as good as they should be given the quality of the players they have.
Everybody, even clever blokes like Mourinho, seem to get taken in by the lure of Real Madrid. So many good players have gone there and been wasted, become peripheral figures when their talent deserves more - even when it's been obvious to any onlooker that they would be treated the same way as so many in the past. The likes of Robben, van der Vaart and Woodgate come to mind. The same goes for managers. Plenty have taken over at the Bernabeu no doubt with optimism that they could lead Madrid to former glories, and they all seem to get **** on within months. Capello spent 2 seasons there 10 years apart, won the league both times and got sacked both times. Absolute joke of a club these days.
Agreed. I will always think of Real Madrid as a kind of footballing graveyard where good footballers go to die. Figo, Zidane, Ronaldo, Robinho, Kaka, Robben, Seedorf, both Diarras, Woodgate, Owen, even McManaman. Real just seem to hoover them up when they are playing really well, then when they spit them out a few years later they either haven't improved at all, or have gone backwards and have to reconstruct their career somewhere else. I wonder if Perez uses Football Manager as his model for how to run a club?
That's what literally flabbergasts me - why do players still go there? I understand the attraction of the glamour, prestige and history, but is it really worth kicking your heels on the bench for? Surely the cash doesn't make up for wasting years of a promising career? Who?!?
Perfect example. Tough tackling player, just what Real need. Goes to the club, fans hate him for trying to break up opposition attacks and help the team keep clean sheets. Wtf?!? I think in the case of Zidane and Figo, it was the appeal of playing alongside other great players at the top of their game, and thus having a great chance to win some extra trophies. Much like Sheringham and Yorke coming to Utd. For C. Ronaldo and a few others, it was probably the chance to be the exception to the rule - the wonderkid who brought glory to Real and restored the white shirts to their former glory. For Owen, McManaman and Woodgate, they just couldn't believe that they'd get the chance to play for a real club and win real trophies. For all the rest, I've no idea! Maybe they'd gambled away all their pensions?
Funny how out of that list excluding figo and zidane, mcmannaman was probably the player that played the best for them out of that lot.
Graveson was ok really, but they just don't know what's good for 'em at Madrid. Makelele should've been there for life too. As for the likes of Figo, Zidane going there - that's fair enough. They were always going to be first on the team-sheet. Cristiano can be forgiven because it was his "dream" . It's the rest I can't understand, those that have seen similar players to themselves go there as promising young players, only to be forced to resurrect their careers with a much lower-key move a couple of years later.
