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Liverpool v City! (CC)

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  1. TomTom94

    TomTom94 Well-Known Member

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    I know it would take European football away from us but I would piss myself laughing if this happened. <laugh>
     
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  2. Jonas' Dance Teacher

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    So, are Cardiff in Europe?

    I really don't get it :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  3. Paullow

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    cardiff have to win the final to get into europe, defeat and they wont
     
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    If they win the Carling Cup they are.
     
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  5. Jonas' Dance Teacher

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    So we have to wait until the FA Cup outcome to see if we get a 6th place European spot?
     
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    Basically if any side outside the top 7 gets into the final of the FA cup, only 5th will be enough to get Europa League.
     
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    Knowing our luck, we will finish 6th and not get into Europe lol.

    Any other year it would be 6th :(
     
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    Wait, I'm confused.

    So, if Liverpool win the final and two champions league sides play in the FA cup final, do we have to either finish 6th or 5th?
     
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    7th <ok>

    Edit (assuming Liverpool are top 6)
     
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    Doesn't matter what happens in the final now I don't think.

    Also, yeah if the top 5 are in the final then 6th goes to Europe.
     
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    Oh yeah, so it could work out best for us finishing 7th than 6th in a weird way haha
     
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    <laugh> it's really not that confusing. tonight's result hasnt been that bad, city would have been better, but it has no impact on us if we do finish 7th, just potentailly if we were to pip liverpool to 6th

    Also, Liverpool finished 6th last season and with bham winning league cup, and stoke runners up in FA, they didnt get in to europe.
     
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  13. Jonas' Dance Teacher

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    We're gunna win the FA Cup anyway so it won't matter :)
     
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    Wait, so we need to finish 7th for European football?

    Is a place reserved for the winner of the fair-play league?
     
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    Possibly, but we're bottom of the fair play league :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    The only neg about Liverpool winning is that if city won cup, and someone outside top 7 was in final of fa cup, we could have got in through 6th spot beating Liverpool.

    It is fairly simple though

    Options.

    Lpool win LC and 2 top teams in fa cup means top 7 in Europe (assuming Liverpool finish top 7)

    Cardiff win LC and 2 top teams in fa cup means top 6 go to Europe

    Cardiff win LC and lower team in fa cup final (winner OR runner up) only top 5 go into Europe

    Lpool win LC and lower team in fa cup final means top 5 + Liverpool go to Europe

    Think that's about it!
     
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    Hope the bin dippers give the Cc their full attention so we can sneak 6th..
     
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    pards notepad knows his stuff, but also a good post on newcastle-united mad which perfectly clears up the situation




    To clarify for anyone who is unaware:

    England has three places for the Europa League, and they are currently awarded thus:

    * For finishing fifth
    * For winning the FA Cup
    * For winning the Carling Cup

    In the event that the FA Cup winner has already qualified for Europe through their league position, then their place is taken by the runner up. If the runner up is also in Europe through the league, then the highest placed team in the league that has not already qualified will be awarded a place.

    In the event that the League Cup winner has already qualified for Europe through the League or FA Cup, then the highest placed team in the league that has not already qualified will be awarded a place.

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    The above all means that seventh is only going to get you into Europe if both FA Cup finalists finish top six, and the League Cup winner is also top six.

    It also means that sixth is not guaranteed European football either, as happened last season, with the three teams being Tottenham (5th), Stoke (FA Cup), and Birmingham (LC).

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    If Liverpool win the League Cup, all it will mean is that our battle with them for sixth (if that's what it ends up being) is irrelevant. We would still need both FA Cup finalists to be top six to get a position through the league (if we are not one of them).

    And to get picky, if Liverpool win the League Cup and reach the final of the FA Cup, technically their League Cup spot would defer to the league
     
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  20. Leon Bessi

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    I dont....
    think we shouldnt bother with all this Europa League nonsense and just go for the CL.


    edit: get it now thanks Paullow for clearing it up.
     
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