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Harry Redknapp

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by mussiesredhat, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    I really don't understand why he is so universally loved and admired - he has screwed clubs over massively, had a very average career pre-Spurs and has a shadier past than Captain Shade of Shadesville, Tennesse. Same as Venables. And he spunks money up the wall like there is no tomorrow yet people spend more time obsessing about Fergie's failed signings and Andy Carroll.
     
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  2. RicardoHCAFC

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    6 months inside is ideal preparation for taking the England job and working for the FA. It's decided you'll do 2 years, you spend 6 months surrounded by crooks and then get released early.
     
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  3. Kempton

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    Yer i meant Barmby,tounge in cheek of course. But in all seriousness i would love it if Nick was England boss one day.
    It would mean he had been a massive sucsess as our manager and it would be a fantastic honour for our club to have one of our own in charge of the three lions.

    If i imagine Hull city high up the prem one day,and a billy billionaire comes calling from Man ****ty say,i'd be gutted if he went. But England,turn that down (as an Englishman) Treason ! <ok>
     
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  4. Party Hull!

    Party Hull! Well-Known Member

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    Here is an actual photo of Harry from earlier today.

    redknapp.jpg

    Also, if he got found guilty, but got off with a suspended sentence and thus was allowed to carry on his day job - would he have to wear a tag on the training ground?
     
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  5. Party Hull!

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  6. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Maybe but his next port of call will be a PL club. Maybe Tottenham Hotspur ?
     
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  7. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    I like it. :biggrin: Hard to disagree actually..^^^^^^^ this. <ok>
     
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  8. Hull

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  9. Party Hull!

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  10. petersaxton

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    HMRC don't have to get involved in a criminal prosecution to get their money they can issue a demand and then issue bankruptcy proceedings. As OLM said it seems the CID are leading the prosecution. HMRC think a high profile jailing would intimidate other tax crooks.
     
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    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    That's a sketch. Cameras are not allowed in court.
     
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  12. Jezz511

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    Harry Redknapp threatened to "sue the b******s" off a journalist as he angrily denied taking bungs, a court heard on Tuesday.

    The Tottenham manager also said Milan Mandaric "don't know what he is f****** talking about" in a 2009 telephone conversation with a News of the World reporter.

    In short extracts read out to a jury at Southwark Crown Court, Redknapp told Rob Beasley he had "the best accountants in England", claiming the Inland Revenue was fully aware of his dealings in Monaco.

    Beasley spoke to Redknapp days after a telephone interview with former Portsmouth chairman Mandaric.

    When Beasley described how Mandaric said the money sent to Redknapp's offshore accounts were investments outside football, the Tottenham manager replied: "He don't know what he is f****** talking about. What is he talking about? It is a bonus."

    Explaining that the payments surrounded profit made on the sale of Peter Crouch from Portsmouth to Aston Villa, Redknapp added: "If it was something dodgy I would have gone over there and brought it back in a briefcase."

    When Beasley asked him whether he had paid any tax in the UK on it, Redknapp replied: "Haven't been asked to, Rob."

    Redknapp said "there ain't nothing crooked in it" as the telephone conversation went on, the court heard.

    "Don't say bung," Redknapp said. "It's nothing to do with a bung. It's paid by the chairman.

    "How can it be a bung when the chairman of the football club paid me?"

    He added: "What's a bung? It's a f****** sick word."

    According to the transcript, he told Mandaric: "I don't want to have a problem with the tax man."

    "They was aware of it from day one," he added.

    When asked about the bonus clause in his contract, Redknapp said: "My accountant has got my contract ... I'm not going to f****** show you."

    He added: "The Inland Revenue know all about it. I've got nothing to defend, Rob.

    "I ain't done nothing wrong ... I ain't done nothing wrong, Rob. I got paid a bonus ... everyone is aware of it."

    He later added: "Everyone knows about it, there ain't nothing crooked in it."

    Redknapp subsequently told police "I don't fiddle", the court heard. John Black QC, prosecuting, read out an interview which took place with a detective four months later in June.

    Redknapp was said to have told a detective: "I said to him many, many times 'Milan, I don't want to end up with a tax bill'.

    "I was told I wasn't liable for income tax on so many occasions."

    Redknapp added: "For the sake of that amount of money or any amount of money, I don't fiddle.

    "I pay my tax since I have been in football my entire life.

    "I pay every penny."

    Redknapp's account differed from what Mandaric told Mr Beasley on February 26 2009, the Crown claim.

    Mandaric was said to have told Mr Beasley that the payments to the Monaco account were nothing to do with Portsmouth securing promotion to the Premier League.

    The transcript said: "This is the money for my investment... a way to help Harry for the investment... we had become friends."

    He added: "Rob, as I told you, it was nothing wrong. It was something I did for my friend... away from football."

    Mandaric said he had "paid him a million or whatever it was I paid him" for Portsmouth's success on the pitch.

    He added: "There was a contract and what I did for him was nothing to do with this."

    As Mr Beasley told Redknapp what Mandaric had said, the manager said: "Well, if that's what he said, then he is wrong."

    Redknapp added: "What people don't seem to understand - this money was paid by Milan in his American account... It was a bonus I was due."

    Redknapp declared his Monaco account to inspectors less than two weeks before joining Spurs, the prosecution allege.

    Earlier, the court heard how the Tottenham manager previously only mentioned the Monaco account as he was quizzed during the Premier League-led investigation.

    John Black QC, prosecuting, said Redknapp "was feigning almost complete ignorance of its existence" as the Quest inquiry under former Metropolitan Police Commissioner Lord Stevens took place in 2006.

    Black asked jurors to consider whether "is it the case that Mr Redknapp could be unaware of the bank account" when he had flown out to Monaco just a couple of years earlier to set it up in the name of his dog, Rosie.

    Despite two separate inquiries into his finances - the first launched in the wake of his receipt of a £300,000 "gift" after Rio Ferdinand signed for Leeds from West Ham - Redknapp only registered the account to tax inspectors after his arrest in 2008.

    Black told jurors: "The existence of the bank account was not registered to Revenue and Customs for a period of six years, two months...after Mr Redknapp was first arrested and questioned in the course of this investigation."

    Tax inspectors were informed of the bank account "only within the context to declare a small amount of credit interest" in 2008, Black said.

    Black showed the jury of eight men and four women newspaper cuttings from 2003, which detailed Redknapp had received a £300,000 gift for the £18million transfer of Ferdinand to Leeds.

    Redknapp - who had managed West Ham before joining Portsmouth - was said to have described the cash he received as a "personal present".

    Black said the fact Redknapp paid tax on the gift was proof he knew future payments would be tax liable.

    The Tottenham manager is accused of banking transfer bonuses worth £189,000 during his time managing Portsmouth.

    One of the payments was said to have been sparked by the £3million profit Pompey made on the sale of England star Peter Crouch.

    Redknapp was accused on Monday of being a "hard-headed businessman" who, alongside co-defendant Milan Mandaric, obscured the money trail for years.

    Redknapp first flew out to Monaco - a tax haven - in April 2002 to set up the account, the Crown claims. He named the HSBC account Rosie 47 - a reference to his dog's name and the year of his birth.

    Black said "both parties must have known" they were avoiding taxes.

    "These payments were a bung or offshore bonus that the parties had absolutely no intention of paying taxes for," he said.

    Redknapp and Mandaric deny two counts of cheating the public revenue when he was manager of Portsmouth.

    The first charge of cheating the public revenue alleges that between April 1 2002 and November 28 2007 Mandaric paid 145,000 dollars (£93,100) into the account.

    The second charge for the same offence relates to a sum of 150,000 US dollars (£96,300) allegedly paid between May 1 2004 and November 28 2007.

    Redknapp, 64, who underwent minor heart surgery last year to unblock his arteries, is the most successful English manager in the modern game, having led Portsmouth to FA Cup success and Spurs to last season's Champions League quarter-finals.

    Serbian Mandaric, 73, is now chairman of Sheffield Wednesday, having previously worked at Leicester.

    Black urged jurors to consider "had Mr Redknapp really forgotten that he had flown to Monaco to set up the account?"

    He showed the panel a string of letters between lawyers in the wake of Redknapp's arrest.

    The first mention of the offshore account came when Mandaric was asked by the Quest inquiry to provide details of payments to Redknapp, Mr Black said.

    "It's clear that it was only at this time that Mr Redknapp brought to the attention the existence of the Monaco bank account, feigning almost total ignorance of its existence, its operation and its contents," he added.
     
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  13. RicardoHCAFC

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    Corrected that bit for you.
     
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  14. Newland Tiger

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    How much money do you need ?

    I don't understand people who do stuff like this when they clearly have enough money

    You could have been England manager Harry you stupid ****
     
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  15. Party Hull!

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    I know, I made a deliberate mistake for comedy reasons.

    I felt it beared no real likeness.
     
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  16. mostynthecat

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    IF HE IS GUILTY - i hope Spurs remove him from employment and no other club touches him with a barge-pole, (but as this is football moral obligations seem not to enter the footballing world - hence Marlon King etc get new clubs).
     
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  17. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    The amount of money being talked about I wouldn't think would make Redknapp bankrupt. The court case, from what I understand, is to determine whether he owes this tax or not. If the court case goes against him, then he will have to pay what money is owed plus costs etc, and at that stage if the amount awarded against him is high enough, this could push him into bankruptcy. In addition to this, if he is found to have done an illegal act, then he will be criminally punished.
     
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  18. islandtiger

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    couldn't agree more with you bum chinned---if he did become england manager he wouldn't make them bankrupt ---or would he be the 1st
     
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  19. andy payton's mullet

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    I think you have that the wrong way round John. Redknapp is on trial for the criminal offence of defrauding the public purse, so if found guilty he would face criminal sentences of prison, suspended sentence, fine etc. He may also be ordered to repay the money under the proceeds of crime act.

    If he is found guilty but is not ordered to repay the money HMRC could issue civil proceedings or bankruptcy proceedings to recover the money, which HR would find it almost impossible to defend as he has already been convicted "beyond all reasonable doubt"
     
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  20. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    I stand corrected, I frankly have not followed the matter that carefully, but thought it was a disagreement between
    HMRC and Redknapp whether he was due to pay tax on this mount or not. Anyhow thanks for putting me straight.
     
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