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Carson, Bardsley, Turner, Elmo, Meyler, Riveros

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by poolie_mackem, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. poolie_mackem

    poolie_mackem Well-Known Member

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    All need moving on?

    I think so whats the overall opinion on these six players two of which are currently out onloan.
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    For me with Bardsley you either love him or hate him depending what you expect from your players. If you like players who put everything into it and are up for it then you will love him if your like me who woul rather see technically gifted players who can play a pass and are better footballing footballers then you wont.

    Personally move all of them on, obv. not this transfer window but we should be looking at replacements so we can move them on apart from Riveros who maybe should get a chance under MoN in pre season the others can go.
     
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  2. Poyet's Eleven

    Poyet's Eleven Well-Known Member

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    Meyler to stay & Bardo to stay

    Turner is okay and we shouldn't look to sell him but if an offer comes in he can go.

    Elmo is really bad and it's beyond belief he stayed.

    Carson and Riveros have not been given any sort of chance tbf so they should be able to prove themselves before we force 'em out.
     
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  3. BillySmartsCircus

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    bardsley and meyler to stay, not fussed about the rest.
     
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  4. redfender

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    Meyler, Bardsley and Turner to stay because they are all good squad players. Remember when we allowed squad players like Collins and Ferdinand to leave only to be caught short because of injuries. The Egyptian is clueless as a waste of his wages so get rid of him. carson has not had a chance but we do have three good keepers in Gordon, Ming and Westwood so let the lad make a new start somewhere. Riverous is a dilema, he looked classy in the world cup but was clearly not at the races in the few games he played, I'd be in favour of giving him some time with MON to see if he can up his game. If he can I think we may have a decent creative player in midfield.
     
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  5. Mackemneil

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    Whether Carson goes or stays is almost irrelevant to first affairs, he is gaining experience on loan.
    Bardsley and Turner, no way should they go anywhere until we have replaced them with players of a much higher calibre. I would see Bramble off before both of them!
    Meyler? Are you mad, when this lad is fit and back to his best I believe he has the potential to be our best midfielder and to play for the Eire.
    Elmo? Squad player covering right back and right wing, sought of back up a squad needs.
    Riveros, not costing us anything at the moment .... MON will need to decide whether he wants rid or to give him a chance, like he has all other squad members.

    So, overall, No I'm sorry but don't agree
     
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  6. SuperKevssafc

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    Agree with other posts about keeping Bardo and Mayler. Turner could go, as long as we got better in. Riveros I would like to see given a go. Not fussed about the other two like.
     
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  7. connor wigham

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    Bardo,Myler and turner to stay defo

    Riveros needs a chance

    Carson its up to him if he stays or goes

    Elmo sell him, give him away or give people money to take him i dont care
     
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  8. Bexinio

    Bexinio Well-Known Member

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    Talk of getting rid of Bardo and Meyler is mental both for different reasons.
    The others can go for me, feel sorry for Turner a little though.
     
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  9. Lostinvegas

    Lostinvegas Well-Known Member

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    I think selling Bardo is a mistake were short on full backs as it is, same goes for Turner, are short of CB's in a lot of ways I would rather sell Bramble.

    Meyler is a difficult one, I think he could be a class act and in the future worth a lot of money, but he has had 2 serious injuries and may never recover. I am guessing he is not on big wages so I would keep him for now but if after a run in the side he is worth Henderson sort of money then it would be time to sell.

    Riveros needs a chance with MON but inevitabley I think we will end up selling a couple of midfielders and he could be one we could get a little bit of money for especially as he cost us nothing.

    Getting Nos, McCartney and a goalkeeper off the wage bill will help us, also remember Bendtner will be leaving at the end of the year.

    Elmo's time is up for me, Larsson and Sess are far better in the same position so I don't see him getting into the side.
     
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  10. dansafcman

    dansafcman Well-Known Member

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    Meyler should stay. Turner, Bardo should stay for now. MON also has Elmo on the bench for a reason, otherwise he would put Noble/Cook on the bench instead so I cant see him leaving.

    I really liked Meyler before his injury. Him and Catts are our only defensive midfielders, and should be competing for that spot.
    Gardner, Vaughan, Colback should compete take the second CM berth, Sess and Ricco the AM/"in the hole" role (and both can play on the wing as well when needed).

    Our midfield is so good due to its versatility, Sess, Ricco, Colback, Larsson, Elmo etc can play in several positions and compete for places in the different spots (including the full back positions).
     
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  11. BlackCatGaz

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    Bardo, never
    Meyler not yet anyhow.
    Turner, need the cover unless someone else comes in.

    Elmo please, Riveros looks solid in slow slow games for Paraguay but is carp in the PL, so should go.
     
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  12. mackemsteve

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    i would get rid of bardo and turner as turner is as slow as a tortoise and about as skillful a one too. he is ok in the air but offers nowt else as he is a old style cb who just kicks it straight out of play normally in his own half so not relieving the pressure. bardo for me has not been the same this season and since winning the player of the season award now thinks that this allows him to blame everyone else for his mistakes. out of position against chelsea for their goal mislays passes and then has a go at the the other players for not being where he kicked the ball. like ricco he thinks he is better than he actually is. i might keep him as a squad player at a push.

    I'd let carson but the others need to be given a chance under o'neill. i would give elmo another season to see if he improves under o'neill and then let him go as for meyler i think once he gets a run in the team he will show his previous good form.

    one person i would like to see go is richardson as he is terrible in whatever position he plays and surely there are better players out there
     
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  13. safc1978

    safc1978 Well-Known Member

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    I love Bardo & Meyler both love to get stuck in & give 100%

    Turner is a good squad player but if an offer came in it would not bother me if he left.

    Riveros has not really had a chance if MoN could get the best out of him he could be a good player for us.

    Elmo & Carson i would not be bothered if they moved on.
     
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  14. Riever

    Riever Well-Known Member

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    Completely agree - would not want to move Turner on until a new CB comes in, after that I think he should go back to the Championship where he will do well.
     
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  15. shiney-mackem

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    POOLIE if you only want technically gifted , footballing footballers I think you could add a few more to your list. But to sell our only fullback who knows how to defend would be crazy.
     
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  16. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    when we move to the next level there will move on in due course <bubbly>
     
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  17. Billy Death

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    Seems like the overall opinion is that you are a joke my friend. Go & have yourself a nice J Arthur over Richardson, that'll do you good. There's a good lad.
     
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  18. poolie_mackem

    poolie_mackem Well-Known Member

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    haha give ya head a shake pal, its an online forum were people give there opinion, mine's different to yours no need to be offensive like.

    Richardson though, is a great player make him captain
     
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  19. Billy Death

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    Is he?

    As you say, it's about opinions. Nee botha.
     
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  20. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Quite a list Poolie, how come our worst first team player Richardson isn't on your list?
     
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