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Two Footed Tackles

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  1. Why aye Cabaye

    Why aye Cabaye Active Member

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    I was listening to TalkSport Drive on the way home from work last night (don't judge me on this....) and they were talking about the two footed tackles by Kompany and glen Johnson.

    They were both in agreement that ANY 2 footed challege should be a straight red card, and for once, I agree with them.

    If you dive in 2-footed you have no control whatsoever, and the full weight of your body is behind you. Therefore, if you make contact with the opposition there is a high chance that they will be hurt or seriously injured. It is endangering an opponent. Players argue they time it right, but you need to be mili-second perfect and that's simply not possible to judge.

    There were lots of fans phoning in saying that neither were red cards as they didn't make contact with the player. But this is only because the respective players facing the tackle (Nani and Lescott) were smart enough to see the tackle coming. If they didn't then serious injury could have resulted (especially in the Johnson tackle). I don't think we should wait until someone dives in and smashes another players leg before they get sent off personally.

    I would issue red cards for all two footed lunges, whether or not contact is made. I've played football from a young age and never felt the need to dive in two footed as it is completely uneccesary.

    We shouldn't be waiting for another broken leg before acting IMO. Even if it was one of our players I wouldn't argue it.
     
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  2. scottish_in_the_toon

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    Here, here. Agree entirely
     
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    I want curly hair too Active Member

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    I agree, had Nani or Lescott been slightly to the left or right when the tackle was made it could have been a completely different story. That's the difference between a great tackle and a broken leg.

    Players should simply just be made aware that those kinds of tackles are unnacceptable, then we wouldn't have to leave it to the decision of the referees, who are already heavily criticised.
    It's down to the FA to make it known that in the game these tackles are illegal, and to the players to follow the rules.
     
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  4. Chappaz

    Chappaz Active Member

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    I really don't understand what brings players to do it personally
     
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  5. MrToontastic

    MrToontastic Well-Known Member

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    I tweeted this during the Manchester derby, why players continue to do this is ridiculous. I don't understand why players would purposely do something like a 2 footed challenge, square upto a player, raise their hands etc.

    It serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever. So why do it? Especially in Kompany's case, it was only the 14th minute and although I don't think Barton should have been sent off the other day vs Norwich, why square up to the opposition he ran the risk and lost out and effectively lost QPR the game for his stupidity.
     
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  6. Rafa's Championship Party

    Rafa's Championship Party Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm in disagreement if you win the ball then it should only be a yellow, for instance Kompany made no contact with the player and won the ball yet got sent off, Johnson got the ball though still should have been penalised with a yellow.
     
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  7. The Situation

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    I'm going to be differen't and disagree, a run half away a cross the pitch and lunge in with two feet then fair enough. But Kompanys and Johnsons tackles weren't that bad and would be common practise 10 years ago!

    Just feel like the FA are getting too nit picky so much so that the ref's are even confused. You can't perform a slide tackle with out some studs showing.

    It add's to the intensity of the game, we don't want it turning into a none contact sport or a interception game!!!
     
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    Gordonthetoony Well-Known Member

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    For me, if one gets sent off then the 2nd should have gone also. How can one referee deem it so serious it's dangerous play, yet the 2nd not even warrant a booking ?????
     
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  10. Rafa's Championship Party

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    I think everyone is agreed on this, its just whether people believe they should have been sent off or not.
     
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  11. Colly NUFC

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    I've cheated and done a straight copy and paste of my view from another forum, but basically I think the rule of malicious intent, excessive force or recklessness is correct, its just not being applied consistently.

    The problem is its near impossible for a referee to make that call on the pitch as it happens so quick, and if the review panel is getting it so wrong on 400 slow motion replays what chance does a ref have. Milijas and Kompany should've had their's overturned instantly, Johnson and Cabaye (from his 'tackle' on Spearing last week) should get bans.

    I know its subjective, but Kompanys was a sliding challenge, from the side, where he hooked the ball away with the top of his foot. Only way Nani gets injured is if he's really unlucky enough to plant his foot exactly where Kompany eventually slides through too, but he had time to avoid that as Kompany was clearly going to be first to the ball. Milijas was fine, no argument required there.

    Johnsons was a two footed lunge where he actually gets the ball with his studs, and Cabayes was a rather cowardly studs up block (I still love you, but don't do it again!). Reckless, and with intent to injure. If whoever reviews that can't tell the difference then the rule is a waste of time.

    They really need to stop working off the blind logic that if both feet aren't on the ground you're out of control though, lest they outlaw overhead kicks, jumping for headers, and erm, running.
     
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  12. Oh Titus She Said No

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    All two footed challenges should be a red card, players know they can't get away with them now so christ knows why they still do it? Don't wait for the players to break someones leg with a bad challenge then send them off, stop them from even attempting it.
     
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    The FA standard Premier League team photo for next season.

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  14. Voluptuous Vuckic

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    I'm not even that sure Kompany's could actually be considered two footed. He leads with his right leg and then brings his left leg around assumingly to bring the ball under control afterwards. It was more of a scissor action than two footed, although that could be equally as bad.
     
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    Shame on you Jim!

    You missed the opportunity to tease the rest of the board about your 25 inchs... ;)
     
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  16. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Red card all day long in both cases. There is absolutely no excuse for it. If you've played football you know the only reason for two footed challenges is malice or if you slipped. There is no place for it whatsoever. Kompany allowed his emotions to get the better of him and had no reason at all to use two feet. He went with one to begin with but then brought the other one through and then scissored him. Daft thing is he could have won that ball cleanly and nailed him using only one foot (which is what I think he was trying to do, intimidate Nani). Always hated it, used to wind me up something bad when I played. The excuse is always "I got the ball". I couldn't give a rats ass, if you hadn't you'd have snapped my leg in two. Same with going in studs up with intent. Kompany and Johnson were straight reds and its the lack of consistency that is the problem.

    If there is no reason for using two feet then just outlaw it altogether, just common sense. As for feet leaving the floor I've never understood this, it should not be a rule. I have never jumped in with feet off the floor and felt out of control of the tackle. Unfortunately those making the rules are probably not best placed to.
     
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    I don't think Kompany or Johnson should have been sent off personally. But, since Kompany got sent off I think Johnson should have if you get my meaning lol.
     
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    I find this offensive. Ballet is far more strenuous and physically demanding than football ;).
     
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  19. Tinker Raylor Soldier Saylor

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    Yellow card if it's Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea. Red for anyone else.

    Love from Howard Webb x
     
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  20. Smudger

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    There should be clarity and consistency with the issue. for Kompany to get sent off but Johnson to not even be booked is ridiculous.
     
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