I reckon it's almost certain both are altering the truth slightly. Although based on the DC's reasoning Suarez has altered the truth much more - apparently he claimed he was being conciliatory when all the TV pictures show him looking just as angry and aggressive as Evra particularly when pinching him and patting his head. Evra has also willingly admitted using bad language and abusing Suarez, potentially laying himself open to a two match ban, which obviously has given him much more credibility. Still, regardless of the amount of times negro was used, it seems pretty certain from both accounts that Suarez used it at least once in the context of an argument, which does contravene the FA rules. I agree with you - I've been wanting it to end for about a month now! Tho' I do reckon Liverpool will appeal - Suarez is worth too much to you and the margins at the edge of the top four are too fine for Liverpool, and FSG in particular, to not take the chance you'll get him back even for a couple more matches. If it makes the difference between CL and EL, or even EL and nothing, the club will be determined to do exhaust the whole process even if they have no chance of success. Rooney did the same last season - Utd knew he couldn't appeal against the conviction but still had a go at appealing the length of the ban. Either way, the "keep your mouth shut" advice is likely to be given regardless. Tho' you'd have thought Suarez would have learned by now - the last time he opened his mouth he got Bakkal's shoulder stuck in it...
I could just look it up in an onlne dictionary for the exact definition but why deny you that joy. I'll give my take on it. to have a bunch of preconceptions or beliefs of a person or people based on their ethnic origin and/or skin colour. See if you can count how many times someone says ****** or similar without actually being a racist, big Ron made a big booboo on the radio but he's not called a racist and he racially abused Drogba, why? calling a name to offend is not the same as treating that person a certain way and believing you should or can treat them that way because of their skin colour or ethnic origin or believe they area certain type of character because they are black brown yellow ect.
I have a feeling that Suarez will **** Liverpool off for Spain, when he's wound up enough people in England. Let's see them defend him then.
I can see fewer and fewer scousers fans trying to defend Suarez in the light of what has come out in the report. It is one thing trying to defend someone's actions on the basis of not knowing what happened. But when he has officially stated to the commission that he has said these things and has promised that he will never again repeat them on a pitch, what is there to defend?
He says the only time he used the word negro was when he said 'why negro?' in a friendly way, which in his culture is not racist. Whether you believe him or not is another matter but if that was what actually happened then he most definitely would have a case to defend.
I was wondering... Why mention someone's colour if it is not an issue? One can only go with actions and words. If the actions are racist in nature then they have to be dealt with.
This is true, but then his account was contradicted by Kuyt, Commoli and Dalglish. And why call someone negro when Suarez admitted he wouldn't use that term when talking to someone not from South America, as he wasn't sure if they would be offended or not?
Reading the full report, the experts from south america said that the word can be deemed as offensive even in South America if used in a similar context. When 2 people are having a confrontation. How can that word ever be a term of conciliation in an aggessive context? it stretches credibility to its limits and was rejected out of hand. I cannot believe that the scousers would want to extend this saga by appealing. They should just apologise and put the whole thing behind them. It is doing damage to their reputation all over the world, especially in Africa and countries with large proportions of balck people.
So calling someone "blackie, blackie, blackie" in a heated argument is not racist to you? Pure semantics. "I don't speak to ******s" and "I don't speak to blacks" are both racist and have 100% exactly the same meaning behind them.
From redcafe: Suarez has been caught out lying by everyone, even his own defence. The commision also stated that the translation of what suarez said is "blackie" Got any more straws you're desperately clutching?
In his culture using the word negro is offensive or not based on the context used. If you say it in a friendly way (as Suarez says he did) then it is not supposed to be racist. But yeah I agree that liverpool have handled this pretty badly.
Er not really if a black guy insulted my sister I wouldn't then call him negro just because his friends call him it. In this case context is everything.
You are missing the point. The point is that you are not allowed to say it in a friendly way at all over here!!!! We are not in south america
Liverpool, as usual have showed themselves up for being the most racist city in britain once again, disgraceful
