1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Absolute Travesty of Justice!

Discussion in 'Cardiff City' started by snlk/poksnbn, Dec 21, 2011.

  1. snlk/poksnbn

    snlk/poksnbn Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2011
    Messages:
    4,090
    Likes Received:
    17
    #1
  2. bongojack

    bongojack Active Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2011
    Messages:
    1,882
    Likes Received:
    3
    Travesty doesn't do it mate a ****ing disgrace and a mockery of the judicial system might get close considering the papers are full of stories of people getting bigger sentences for theft, the whole thing is beyond comprehension
     
    #2
  3. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    27,820
    Likes Received:
    15,407
    The taking of a life in those circumstances, no matter how you dress up about "intent" all that crap, demands a sentence little short of the maximum possible for the crime of manslaughter. I understand that is life imprisonment. Travesty indeed.
     
    #3
  4. DaiJones

    DaiJones Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,295
    Likes Received:
    5,052
    Out in 18 months !!!

    Unbelievable.
     
    #4
  5. Stevoldinho

    Stevoldinho Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Messages:
    3,314
    Likes Received:
    92
    His family must be devastated, there's no justice there.
     
    #5
  6. SussexBlueBird

    SussexBlueBird Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,208
    Likes Received:
    21
    wonder how many years he'd have got had Michael been a copper not a stonemason, ****ing unbelievable
     
    #6
  7. taffthefish

    taffthefish Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,500
    Likes Received:
    345
    Words fail me.
     
    #7
  8. Crackerjack

    Crackerjack Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    3,948
    Likes Received:
    6
    Bad people are able to fall through the judicial cracks in the name of supporting sports teams , it's almost built into society around the world . This seems a case in point . I'm always sad for the VICTIM'S family left behind to watch justice floundering in front of their eyes , frankly I not sure what I'd do if I was one of the family left behind but I'm pretty sure jail time would be a given & also sure the laws might not be so forgiving for me .
     
    #8
  9. Hilts24

    Hilts24 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2011
    Messages:
    4,343
    Likes Received:
    1,828
    I just cant believe that sentence.

    An absolute disgrace!!!!!!!!!

    That is not justice!!!!! About 18 months for taking a life!!!!!!!!!!

    This country is becoming a laughing stock.
     
    #9
  10. Swamp

    Swamp Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    4,693
    Likes Received:
    110
    why not just say 18 months at the top of the article instead of this phoney 3 years, what a kick in the teeth this is for his family who have to live without him for the rest of their lives..
     
    #10

  11. iggypop

    iggypop Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2011
    Messages:
    431
    Likes Received:
    1

    Agree, some people who encouraged others to violence in the summer got the same just for posting a message on the internet etc....
     
    #11
  12. BluefromBridgend

    BluefromBridgend Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    20,163
    Likes Received:
    11,285
    Look at the sentences some of our guys got for willingly taking part in the ruck after the Chelsea game. I'm not condoning that punchup but comparing what they got for what was little more than "handbags" is totally out of proportion to this ridiculous sentence where a man (regardless of where he was from or who he supported) lost his life. Perspective - my ar$e!!!!

    Don't the police or CPS have the power to appeal sentences where they are considered too light?

    I believe the police made the comment that they were happy with the sentence. Of course they were. They got a result, conviction and sentence so ticks in their stats boxes but JUSTICE? NEVER!!!!!
     
    #12
  13. Kifflom!

    Kifflom! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,286
    Likes Received:
    4,272
    "why not just say 18 months at the top of the article instead of this phoney 3 years"

    Because the Labour Government introduced 'transparency in sentencing' many years ago which in fact was anything but. Sorry, but he'll actually be released for next Christmas with a tag.

    Not condoning this despicable act but I suspect the plea of guilty was on the basis of provocation. That's the only way I can explain the sentence. Had it been an unprovoked assault the sentence would have been at least five on a guilty plea to manslaughter without a weapon. The prosecution often appeals sentences that are off the tariff. It's noteworthy that they are not as far as I'm aware.
     
    #13
  14. H bomb

    H bomb Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2011
    Messages:
    3,877
    Likes Received:
    8
    The judge described the attack as "unprovoked" but I suspect the fact this guy handed himself in voluntarily and is now, allegedly, "suffering from depression" worked in his favour when being sentenced.

    Lets see how depressed he is when he's out in 12-18 months. Where's the justice for the family?

    I agree with all the above in particular the stats boxes being ticked

    As recently as March the House of Commons asked the Government to review sentencing guidelines for those convicted of manslaughter so that sentences can better reflect the severity of the offence.

    The independent Sentencing Council and the Court of Appeal are responsible for producing sentencing guidelines. There is no current guideline on unlawful act manslaughter but the courts will take account of relevant case law and guidance established by the Court of Appeal. The Court of Appeal has concluded that it is not realistic to treat what is described as “one-punch manslaughter” as comprising a single set of circumstances; cases involving death resulting from a single blow vary greatly in their seriousness. In a judgment issued in December 2009 on manslaughter cases, the Court of Appeal said that

    “the manslaughter cases with which we are concerned involved gratuitous, unprovoked violence in the streets of the kind which seriously discourages law-abiding citizens from walking their streets, particularly at night”.

    It went on to say

    “that crimes which result in death should be treated more seriously, ...so as to ensure that the increased focus on the fact that the victim has died in consequence of an unlawful act of violence, even where the conviction is for manslaughter, should, in accordance with the legislative intention, be given greater weight”.

    The Government have no plans to request to the Sentencing Council to produce a guideline on unlawful act manslaughter.

    http://services.parliament.uk/hansard/Commons/ByDate/20110512/petitions/part002.html

    Rule ****ing Britannia <doh>
     
    #14
  15. PGFWhite

    PGFWhite Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2011
    Messages:
    12,677
    Likes Received:
    6,938
    If the prison sentence wasn't already an insult, a six year banning order from football is a pi** take. You get a three year banning order for running on the pitch.
     
    #15
  16. dickydykie

    dickydykie Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2011
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    0
    totally agree with everything already above......didn't someone get a similar senatance for knickin' a mars bar in the riots......stinks
     
    #16

Share This Page